290 Rapture of the Mind

A “Praise Be To Allah” presidential post, official accounts teasing cryptic launches, war explained through LEGO aesthetics, and moon-mission photos that somehow create more doubt than wonder. We start with the internet’s whiplash and follow it to the uncomfortable conclusion: modern propaganda isn’t trying to persuade you with clean arguments, it’s trying to condition you with mood, tempo, and spectacle. When politics is delivered as memes, the joke is never just a joke. It becomes a training environment for how you feel, what you ignore, and what you accept as normal.

From there we dig into media literacy, algorithmic manipulation, and why “nothing feels real anymore.” We talk Artemis, conspiracy bait, and the way institutions communicate in ways that almost invite distrust. Then we pivot into AI as a belief system: sci fi as a cultural operating system, tech leaders chasing an AI god, and the seductive promise that intelligence will solve morality. We challenge the “best for all” marketing line and ask what responsibility looks like when everyone wants a machine, a leader, or a religion to do the hard parts of being human.

We also get personal and blunt about mental health, trauma, delusion, and why so many ideologies function like coping mechanisms, including the new ones aimed at kids. That leads to education: AI teachers, the loss of friction, and why real critical thinking comes from relationships, disagreement, and trust, not optimized answers that flatter you. If you’ve felt the haze of the scroll, this one is a map for what’s happening and how to push back. Subscribe, share this with a friend who lives online, and leave a review with your take: what’s the clearest sign you’ve seen that the medium is rewriting the message?

Transcript

Cold Open And Wild Trump Posts

SPEAKER_05 1:08

You just said shalom? Yeah. What are you? I saw Trump just tweeted out this morning. Praise be to Allah. Did you? Was that real?

SPEAKER_14 1:16

Yeah, I looked it up on it's on Truth Social. That is insane. You guys see this?

SPEAKER_03 1:22

Show the tweet. That one?

SPEAKER_05 1:26

Okay. Well, I I was gonna start with the Easter Miracle. That's no, you already started junior.

SPEAKER_03 1:30

You can't you can't start with something and then say you're gonna start with something else. That's not how that works. Austin, amigos are you can't pull out, Mitchell. No, hang on. Mitch got a haircut.

SPEAKER_14 1:41

You guys there's got a haircut now, he's suddenly like full-blown, like alt right.

SPEAKER_05 1:45

Guys, amigos, guys, look, Donald Trump Jr. has been praying to the one real God. This is the Easter miracle I was praying for today. Pilot, WSO rescued and all rescue operators safely out of Iran. What an extraordinary extraordinary mission behind enemy lines. Shot down on Good Friday, rescued on Easter. You couldn't ask for anything more perfect. Happy Easter, all guys. We should just stop the fucking podcast. It's happened. It was the most perfect thing. Nothing more perfect could have possibly.

SPEAKER_03 2:20

Was that violent Jesus? You were shot down on Good Friday. Right.

SPEAKER_05 2:24

But God who shot down Jesus? God actually shot down Jesus. He's like, dude, son, I love you so much.

SPEAKER_03 2:32

Who else is gonna shoot him down? Nobody else could shoot him down.

SPEAKER_05 2:34

But then God came in as part of the rescue squad, too.

SPEAKER_03 2:37

Listen, listen, listen. Nobody else can kill Jesus except.

SPEAKER_05 2:42

Oh, sorry guys. No, that wasn't the most important tweet. All right, here. What was the one?

SPEAKER_03 2:46

You got the one that Mitch actually started with for all of you who weren't paying attention.

SPEAKER_05 2:50

This is from the White House.

SPEAKER_03 2:51

This is from Donald Trump himself. Donald J. Trump. He says Tuesday will be Power Plant Day and Bridge Day. All wrapped up in one in Iran. There will be nothing like it. Exclamation mark, exclamation mark, exclamation mark. Open the fucking straight, you crazy bastards, or you'll be living in hell. Just watch. Praise be to Allah. Donald J. Trump. President Donald J. Trump. What the fuck? Is this real? Is this real light? I feel like I feel like what's the kid's name? He goes to the dentist.

SPEAKER_14 3:29

I feel like I died and went to Earth.

SPEAKER_03 3:35

I feel that way too. Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 3:37

Yeah, that was crazy. Yeah. Yeah. I like I it none of it was out of character except for the praise be to Allah. Like, what was that part about? I never seen him tweet the word fuck. True. Listen. Not that I'm aware of.

SPEAKER_03 3:52

Okay. Um, here's what concerns me. When I when I read this tweet, I was like, this is fucking crazy. Was this a straight open?

SPEAKER_05 4:02

For the record, right? The straight was open like eight weeks ago before we killed Khomeini. It was just flowing fine. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 4:10

Okay. Just making sure.

SPEAKER_04 4:11

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 4:12

Okay. Here's here's what to me, I'm like, it's so crazy. It makes me feel. Here's here's the the thought that came into my mind. I'm like, why can't we just go back to Sleepy Joe? Uh and and here is here's the problem.

SPEAKER_05 4:32

Should transition to Cameron being president. I would I would vote. But left everyone.

SPEAKER_14 4:36

I'm gonna be like, fucking fuck fucker fucks. Every tweet. I'm just gonna be I don't know if fucking every tweet.

SPEAKER_03 4:46

Yeah, yeah. No, but but like that's the the problem with left and right politics, is it's like it's like I feel like Trump came in and he was like, I'm gonna be so fucking crazy, they're gonna wish, they're gonna wish they had biting back.

SPEAKER_05 4:59

Yeah, because okay, you see kind of the trolling back and forth with the you know creative memes. It's like this next level propaganda. And then there was a few that there were like zingers towards the US. And then and then did you see the White House one, the coming soon? I don't know if I saw it. So I'll I'll just pull it up you can see it, because I can't even put words to it. Here's the White House page. So it's like you have Iran doing these kind of troll and who even knows who's doing it, but there's these LEGO movies that are like starring the US, like basically falling. Oh dude. Uh they're pretty creative. But look at Oh shit. Maybe they post like ten times a day every day. The loading one.

SPEAKER_03 5:53

Listen, I I I got you, I got you, I got you. Don't worry. Be happy. I got you, sir. Mitchell. Guys, sorry, they posted too much.

SPEAKER_05 6:03

They post too much. I'm gonna have to find it. I guess you posted like a lot of things. The State Department tweeted this morning he has risen.

SPEAKER_14 6:09

Yeah, I saw that. I did.

Childhood IP As War Propaganda

SPEAKER_03 6:11

There's no such thing as separation of church and state anymore. They just they gave up on that. They gave up on it. Okay. Um, here you go, Mitchell. Ready? Check this out. So this was this was one that was like from a while ago. This is Weaponizing Your Childhood, the new propaganda playbook. Right? Oh damn. It's just showing uh maybe I can. Oh yeah, this one.

SPEAKER_05 6:42

You guys remember we?

SPEAKER_03 6:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 6:44

I remember we sports.

SPEAKER_03 8:10

There's playmaker. But it's like an oversimplification, you know, of like what's actually happening. It's like, oh yeah, these pinheads, you see the joke there, these pinheads won't stop making nuclear weapons, so we gotta we gotta strike them down just like that. Yeah, America. That's right, strike.

SPEAKER_08 8:39

You know, like it oh no!

SPEAKER_13 8:46

Let me keep everyone safe.

SPEAKER_08 8:48

Sounds great. Maybe not.

SPEAKER_13 8:51

Now, there we go. Relax. Sometimes security comes with a little control.

SPEAKER_03 9:01

I mean, this is really interesting propaganda, you know, all around.

SPEAKER_05 9:06

Because think too, I mean, they know people get programmed from their childhood, so he's hitting all the all that in the adults, too.

SPEAKER_13 9:12

Dude, they got the GTA version too. It sort of like sensitizes you to it in a way.

Japanese Fart Art And Distraction

SPEAKER_03 9:19

Definitely. Definitely. Totally. I saw this one, check this one out. Uh, this is Did you just scroll past Japanese fart art? I did actually. Where was it? Oh, there it is. Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_11 9:35

Japanese fart art, because it's magnificent. You're looking at one of the Hegasen scrolls, a 34-foot-long hand-painted masterpiece, centuries old and entirely dedicated to fart battles. Look at it. The line work is impeccable, the composition is dynamic, and the farts are majestic. People are using fads to deflect incoming waves of flatulence. This poor cat is being launched into the air. There's a fart cavalry, and these people are trapping farts in a bag to create some kind of flatulence bomb.

SPEAKER_03 10:10

It's so this is what I you guys know me. This is what I watched. I can't I can't tell you about that.

SPEAKER_13 10:19

What is this martial art?

SPEAKER_03 10:20

I I wanna I can't tell you about that. Um, but check this one out. So this one this one's part two. I wonder if uh I could find part one. Part one was really good. Part two is like meh. But uh this is like let me see. Let me see if they have the part. Uh it would take too long to find it. It's gonna take too long to find this. Is like Mitchell going through his tweets over there.

SPEAKER_04 10:47

I'm looking.

SPEAKER_05 10:47

I'm looking at mine too. Uh no. Because it it it gives off the vibe of like you like we're crazy. Like you don't know what the fuck's gonna happen. We're fucking insane. I'm sure there's like MMA fighters that have that style where you're like who's the guy who bit off someone's ear? Evander Hall of Here. That kind of Mike Tyson. Yeah, he bit off Evander Hall of Field's ears. Oh, okay, okay. So it was Mike Tyson. Yeah, it's kind of that vibe. Uh it said something, it was just someone who was human trafficking.

SPEAKER_14 11:19

Um yeah. Damn, I don't know their names. I was really curious where you were gonna go with that. I was gonna say one of the victims' names, but I don't know anyone.

SPEAKER_03 11:31

Yeah, good job. Good job. Jennifer is her name, okay?

SPEAKER_14 11:38

Um what was I gonna say about well, whatever, yeah. It it totally uh oh uh Trump. He it's like every other day. He's like, we're winning. We already won the war. It's not even a war. No, it's actually a war now, and we won. Anyways, could you guys stop blowing up our ships? If you don't stop blowing up our ships, we're gonna we're gonna bomb you. And we won, guys. Next day is like, we're gonna blow up the Strait of Ormuz if you don't stop. I'm like, dude, what is happening here? But it's that's part of it. It's it's it's like the next level of but the weird thing about it is it's not none of this is targeted towards the enemy. It's not like Iran is unaware of whether they're still at war or whether they're winning or losing or what's gonna happen. Like, it's like just for the citizens to be confused. Like, why? Why do they need to confuse everybody that much? It's weird. Why can't we go back to the old days of war where it was just like join the effort? Like, you're doing your part. Now it's just like a Lego movie battle. It's fucking crazy.

SPEAKER_04 12:49

Oh, I guess Mitch is now. Like, what are we doing here, guys? Yeah, no, no, no. Did you see this one?

SPEAKER_13 13:03

Oh, that was from the White House.

SPEAKER_05 13:04

Yeah. That, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think they're combating the whole like kid, you know, kid movie thing. Here we go. Found it, guys. Wow, this is so fucking anticlimactic, but I'll just show you anyway. Yeah, show me. So a lot of the new like Lego things were coming out. There was that one where it's like we're gonna avenge all the Native Americans you killed and all the women you've killed and all the shit. And uh this is this is what the White House came back with. Soon this one, like this and a distraction.

SPEAKER_14 13:42

Oh yeah, and what was it? It was just that they were launching like a social media app to get updates like on Tempest off. That was it. This is they went there was like a whole week where they were just like, and then there's this, here we go.

SPEAKER_05 13:57

This is the other one. They were uploading all of these fucking weird, mysterious.

SPEAKER_14 14:06

Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. They were building it up to something weird, and then it was just like a almost like a news app that's government curated.

SPEAKER_03 14:17

Oh, we finally have it. We've got the the 1984 uh news. I don't know what to do.

Artemis Moon Hype And Doubts

SPEAKER_05 14:26

Announcing the Ministry of Truth. The Ministry of Truth. There you go. The mini true. Yeah. Uh so guys, we went to the moon this week? Did they like go around the moon? What happened? You went to the moon? Artemis, bro! Artemis too.

SPEAKER_14 14:42

Yeah, they're on the moon. They're still on the way.

SPEAKER_13 14:45

They're still on the way. Oh, they're on the way.

SPEAKER_14 14:47

This this is actually an interesting phenomenon going on. They've never even been to the moon. Have you guys been seeing all the all the stuff that's like, oh, the flat earthers are gonna hate this? Oh, they're just freaking out. Look, oh, flat earthers, they're gonna, they're gonna they're gonna realize they were wrong. I'm like, is this the point of this? Is oh yeah, it's like all over.

SPEAKER_03 15:06

I I've only been seeing these photos. Photos from the window of Artemis. And first of all, I'm like, who's taking these photos? I don't, I'm not fucking buying it. Not one bit at all. I don't know who the fuck is taking these photos. It's real weird, right?

SPEAKER_05 15:24

What and and why don't they say like okay, you know, to me couldn't they just go fucking live on Facebook and be like, hey guys, I'm actually here, it's actually fucking real.

SPEAKER_03 15:32

I mean, if they can send a fucking photo, all the you know, like why not?

SPEAKER_14 15:37

They better be they better have a fucking camera recording the whole thing so they can show it to everybody afterwards of like the whole real-time experience.

SPEAKER_03 15:46

Listen, I I want to know, yeah, like we have to space.

SPEAKER_05 15:51

They have like I'm not saying they even have to broadcast it live, just record all of it.

SPEAKER_03 15:53

No, no, I hear you. I hear you. I agree. If I were going up there, I would take my phone up there with me, and I'd be like zooming in and be like, okay, look, maybe maybe you can't see it that good. All right. There's my mom's house. Like, you know, that's where I grew up. Fair enough. Look, uh, when I when I went to the Grand Canyon, I took a photo and I looked at the photo, I'm like, this sucks. This photo sucks. This is not what the Grand Canyon looks like. The Grand Canyon is magnificent, and this photo does not do it justice. So fair enough, I could see that, you know, like, but if you were to at least do that, they're not even doing that. And and here's the other thing. Here's the other thing. When they send these photos that are like from Artemis, whatever, who took the photo? I want to know. John up there, and John took this photo. Lisa up there took this photo. The black guy took this photo. Like, tell me who took the fucking photo! Like, oh, this magnificent photo was shot by so-and-so. None of that. It's just photo. From Artemis.

SPEAKER_05 16:55

Yeah. Look at that. That press conference thing too was pretty weird. What about it? Which press conference? You saw the dude.

unknown 17:02

Well. What?

SPEAKER_05 17:04

Give me give me six minutes so I can find it. Give me six minutes so I can find it.

SPEAKER_14 17:08

But what was it before they left, you mean, or what?

SPEAKER_05 17:10

Uh, yeah. I didn't watch it. No, there was like a line in there, very cryptic. Everyone jumped on it. Did you hear about how like the toilet's broken?

SPEAKER_14 17:22

Um drama. I did hear about that. Yeah, it's like some exhaust vent or something like froze over, so they can't flush the toilet, so it's just backed up, and so like they're literally full of shit. Like, seriously.

SPEAKER_03 17:34

That's funny.

SPEAKER_14 17:35

Literally, like the so the one thing that went wrong. So they spent$93 billion on this and they couldn't figure out how they could make the toilet work. And they only have one toilet. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:44

Yeah. That that's that makes a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_14 17:48

They brought 49 tortillas and maple syrup. Also, there's there's so much weird if I look at what is all the propaganda, it's all about like because one of the guys is Canadian. Yeah. And so it's about like uniting Canada together. And then also um the whole I was tweeting you guys or texting you guys about this. Like they're Fartimus 2, Japanese fart art. I gotta show that one. That's pretty good.

SPEAKER_17 18:21

Okay, okay, Keith. Okay. I'm with you. I'm with you, I'm with you this whole way. I like it.

SPEAKER_14 18:27

They're gonna fart their way to the moon. Uh okay. Think about when the moon landing happened in the 60s, and like every every American was like, Yes, I'm so proud to be an American, and like this is so amazing, and we're so great. So I feel like they're trying to bring back that energy, sort of. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:49

But I feel like that only works on boomers. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_14 18:52

Well, and then I was thinking maybe that's what it's about. It's about somehow like generating more energy from the boomers to like.

SPEAKER_05 19:00

Yeah, like to kind of keep accepting everything. Like dude, Keith, what if it was Fartimus 2, right? And it's the Japanese fart art, and then they're stuck in space and they have to like fart their way home. That would be hilarious.

SPEAKER_13 19:14

Yes.

SPEAKER_05 19:19

It's like the Apollo movie. They're like, shit, we're stuck, or whatever happened in that movie. That'd be very funny.

SPEAKER_14 19:27

Yeah. Houston, we have a problem. They're like, what's the problem? Oh shit, you're stuck in space again? He's like, no, I can't take a shit. That's the problem. Um well, when you guys are ready to move on from Artemis too. I'm ready. I'm not sure. I can't find the thing.

SPEAKER_05 19:49

But but the guy, he basically admits that he's like, yeah, we haven't been to the moon. Like he said that in the press conference, and he was referring to he hasn't been to the moon.

SPEAKER_14 19:58

Yeah, and there was one thing where they said, um it's our first time going to the moon. That was it. And we're gonna have uh a craft in low earth orbit, like referring to, I guess, the International Space Station. Yeah. And everyone's like, oh my god, they're admitting they never been to the moon. And then you know I'm like, yeah, if you were gonna try to like reduce confusion, this would be the worst way to say it. This would be like the worst thing to say in a fucking press conference. And everyone's like, you're just low IQ, people you know, you can't fucking comprehend. Like, obviously, he means it's the first time we're going to the moon and we have something in low earth orbit, and how cool that is, because they'll be able to talk to each other, and I'm like, fine, then you shouldn't have said it's it's our first time going to the moon and we're gonna have something in low earth orbit. Like maybe you should have phrased it differently. Meaning, if you're taking responsibility for the fact that you know the conspiracy theorists are gonna lose their minds, like you would phrase it very clearly. I don't know. Especially if the goal is they want to own all the flat earthers. Yeah, it's so weird, man.

SPEAKER_03 21:10

I was looking for this video that I saw that was pretty funny. It was this animation of an eagle in a suit walking around and he sees a squid. Yeah, yeah. He sent me that. Oh, I did send it to you. Yeah, yeah, you sent it to me. Okay, if I sent it to you, then I I know I can find it. Thanks. Thanks. Um, all right, Mitchell, what else is happening over there in Mitchell land?

SPEAKER_04 21:38

Packing. Okay. Mitchell mean land. What are you packing?

SPEAKER_03 21:42

What are you packing? Like a what you packing? I don't know. Like a swimming.

SPEAKER_05 21:47

A nine mil. No, no drink. No guns. You're not just my swimsuit and uh Yeah, basically, we can be chilling at the pool all day.

SPEAKER_03 22:02

Okay. Eating food. You're chilling at the pond.

SPEAKER_05 22:06

You better watch out. We were watching some videos beforehand. You dressed your best.

SPEAKER_03 22:11

You what? I don't have a pool. I know I live in Florida. I don't have a pool. I have a pond.

SPEAKER_05 22:17

Oh, with gators? I mean, are there ever gators in that pond? See how I picture this. So in in Minnesota, we have deer everywhere. Yeah. That's what I picture Florida. Besides Miami. I know they clean it up in Miami, but by you, Drake, I'm picturing.

SPEAKER_14 22:34

What is the alligator situation like? Because you know, we went to that I've been to Florida a few times. Yeah. And like at the hotel, sometimes they'll have like you know golf courses and big bodies of water, and you'll see the alligators. Is it like that generally when you're in Florida? Like just walking around, do you see alligators? Like just coming about, or is it like you have to kind of be in specific places to see them?

SPEAKER_03 22:57

Uh more so you'll see them more often in specific places. But the rule of thumb in Florida is if it's a body of water bigger than a pool, then you can expect that there's an alligator in there.

SPEAKER_05 23:13

Bigger than it's like a normal swimming pool? Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 23:17

So they're not like walking across traffic. Not generally, no. Like if you're at Chipotle, you don't walk outside and it could be like an alligator.

SPEAKER_05 23:25

Gator just like, hey fucker. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_03 23:28

Um but like the we assume in every lake there's gonna be a gator.

SPEAKER_14 23:33

Okay, so if you're near water, okay, so don't take a bath at Drake's house. Got it. Don't yeah. If you spill some water in the kitchen, watch out.

Cartoons As Political Control

SPEAKER_03 23:48

Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you spill a lot of water, okay. I found it. Thanks for thanks for stalling. Check it out.

SPEAKER_04 23:56

That was not a stall. That was enlightening.

SPEAKER_03 23:58

That was my best material, dude. That was an enlightening journey. I'm I'm glad we used that already. Okay, check it out. This is state video.

SPEAKER_07 25:41

What do you do with the mall?

SPEAKER_14 25:46

I can't tell. Is this AI or is it actual animation? I don't know. It looks so consistent. That's why I'm like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 25:54

Like I was the same voice of the actor the whole time. So I couldn't tell if the squid was talking or the bird was talking.

SPEAKER_03 26:00

Dude, I I just thought that was really funny. I thought it was clever. Well done.

SPEAKER_14 26:05

You know? Is that the Chinese government making this shit, or is that just like someone like me, like on their computer?

SPEAKER_03 26:11

I have no idea who but it's all propaganda, and I mean notice this is the way that we communicate now to the people. It's and to be fair, we've done this you know, since Walt Disney time at the very least, where they would have cartoons, political uh cartoons, right? But this is like the only way to get across a message, it seems now. Like like people cannot actually think further than a little short meme, you know, it's got like a few words here that's funny. Ha ha ha ha! Yes, I agree, you know, or a cartoon or something like that. And so it's interesting because uh you have to be able to talk now to the average person, you have to be able to talk down, like really far down, so that it can click with them, and you have to like get into their emotions somehow so they can go, yes, you're right.

SPEAKER_05 27:19

Activate that core memory.

SPEAKER_14 27:20

I was talking about Snow Crash on uh one of my live streams uh this past week. And Snow Crash, Snow Crash. One of the ideas being that the like the the the message itself is not the point, but it's like the virus within it. Right? And and there I was reading people there's books that people have written about Snow Crash where like they analyze it.

SPEAKER_09 27:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 27:44

And one of them, like I was saying, like the idea that like uh like when a body gets a vir like when a virus is in a body and it um it whether your body, like whether you get sick or not, doesn't depend on you understanding uh the virus any more than uh a person who doesn't get sick doesn't understand it. It's it's like a a function of it, it's like a code within there. And I think that's kind of the purpose of this kind of stuff. It's not about explaining something so you understand it, it's about sending a certain message to you that you'll act upon in some way or not act upon, you know. But it's not about the actual information, so they're not trying to convey an explanation that they're programming you with something else, like in that case. It's like even the Chinese propaganda, it's still just making the whole thing seem silly and funny, like so you're not thinking about it actually. You're not even though it seems like it's trying to tell you something, it's more just that you just become like, oh, it's like it's like a cartoon that's happening, so you actually like within yourself respond to the events as if it's all just a big cartoon. Oh, look at what Trump's doing. Even like we were doing the beginning, it's like, oh it's so silly. You know, so it's like the way in which they're presenting the information is more important than like what they're trying to tell you.

SPEAKER_03 29:12

You're saying uh the medium is the message.

SPEAKER_14 29:15

I should write a book about that. I should. I should definitely uh you should.

SPEAKER_03 29:20

I I would I would at least you know look at it.

SPEAKER_05 29:23

I I would be very interested in that. You'd have two two phones.

SPEAKER_14 29:27

I'll use a pen name. Uh-huh. Well put it in the time, I'll put it in a time machine and Cameron McLeo Cope.

SPEAKER_03 29:37

Uh would would you would you uh yeah, yeah. Cameron Marshall McLuh cope uh that one?

SPEAKER_04 29:46

Yeah guys, what should Cameron's pen name be? Put it in the chat. Marshall McLuhan. That's what it should be. Marshall McCameron. Yeah.

Sci Fi Reading And Worldbuilding

SPEAKER_05 29:56

Yeah, that would be that would be that would be good. Hey, I guess. Sorry, you have something important to say. I made I made it further peripheral to where it's getting very good. That's all I wanted to say. Oh. Okay. Took me long enough, but now I'm like now I'm like chugging through the pages. Mitchell. For a while I was like, this is the most confusing fucking thing I think I've ever read.

SPEAKER_03 30:18

We're gonna go on a cruise soon, and you get to just like hey, hey, can I ask you a favor, Mitch? Actually, you can ask.

SPEAKER_05 30:27

It will not necessarily be granted though.

SPEAKER_03 30:29

Can you pack agency in your bag?

SPEAKER_05 30:32

You're gonna read it in four days?

SPEAKER_13 30:37

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 30:38

So you read peripheral? You can have agency and then Wait, you haven't read agency yet?

SPEAKER_14 30:44

No, I started bookstart and get it. Oh no, agency's the second one. Yeah, yeah. Wait, so you're reading peripheral now? Yes, yes, yes, yes. You so you finished agency. Did you stop reading agency? You stopped reading agency. I'm asking Mitch. He's asking.

SPEAKER_05 30:57

Oh, yeah, yeah. So I I started agency and then you're like, oh, you should actually read peripherals.

SPEAKER_14 31:02

I thought you ignored what I was saying. Oh no, no, no. That's what I was like confused. I was thinking you were still on the one you had started. I was like, oh no, no.

SPEAKER_03 31:10

Stop Mitchell's not like you or I. He actually listens.

SPEAKER_14 31:14

Well, I was confused about it because you were like saying it's confusing, and I'm like, agency is really not that confusing.

SPEAKER_05 31:19

No, no, no, no, peripheral.

SPEAKER_14 31:20

Peripheral is that was the same experience. Do you know about how far you are?

SPEAKER_05 31:24

You told me like you gotta get kind of through the first 50 pages. I was on like page 60, and I was still like, this is fucking confusing. And then finally it clicked, and I was like, Yeah, ah.

SPEAKER_14 31:31

Now it's estimating the page number, it's probably 60 or something. Yeah, yeah. It's it's very unclear like what exactly is happening, but you can see, especially as you keep going, you'll be like, oh, there was a reason he did that. You know, because the characters were confused, they didn't know what the fuck was going on. So yeah, he doesn't try to give you more information.

SPEAKER_05 31:54

But Drake to answer your question, I'll bring you agency if if if uh Christine can make me some extremely good dessert. It doesn't have to be key lime pie, it could be something wasteful. Listen, listen, Mitchell. Oh, like we're trying to eat well at your house, which I know I will. Listen, I want the foodie experience.

SPEAKER_03 32:12

Listen, Mitchell. Mitchell. I just want to let you know, just just so you know, as you're heading over here, Christine's already like, so we'll make this, this, and this. I'm like, you're gonna blow Mitchell's mind. He's gonna I'm bringing you an agency. Do you want to put me like I got you, Christine? Christine was like, do you think do you think Mitch I think Mitch and Jess would like this dessert?

SPEAKER_05 32:34

I'm like, that thing I don't like is tuna and mayo. So if she's if she goes making some fucking tuna sandwich with mayo on it, I would still honestly eat it, probably because Christine's a good good cook.

SPEAKER_14 32:49

Or whatever you call it. Um Mitch, uh Drake, uh what do you have any books you'd like to read? I've got a whole bunch.

SPEAKER_05 32:58

Cameron, how's that book? The theory. Have you ever read any Charles Strauss? Yeah, I've got some Charles Strauss. Dude.

SPEAKER_14 33:05

That's what I'm I'll I'll steal a book off of Katie's book. I don't care. Okay, there's something to this message.

SPEAKER_02 33:12

Message is the meaning.

SPEAKER_03 33:16

What?

SPEAKER_13 33:17

I'm coming to your house, right?

SPEAKER_02 33:19

You are?

SPEAKER_05 33:20

Yes. He's just gonna door knock and show up. And then hand you a Coke and Pepsi. Yeah, I don't know if I'll be here.

SPEAKER_03 33:28

I'm I'm I'm really busy, Kim.

SPEAKER_14 33:30

Do you actually not know? Or are you joking? What that we're gonna be visiting you?

SPEAKER_03 33:35

Uh Katie says, Don't you dare. And I don't know what she means. I don't know if she means don't you dare come to my house. Oh well, uh you're gonna have to talk to her about that. I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 33:50

So, Cam, how's that Charles Straw's book? Because this is what I realized.

SPEAKER_03 33:55

Is that the Revenge of the Nerds?

SPEAKER_05 33:57

Rapture of the Nerds, goddamn it, dude. Every single person. Um Revenge of the Nerds was some 80s movie, which I never saw. That's what he said. But uh, I think there's something to this whole message in the medium thing because I can still appreciate Accelerando. I read it with Aristotle when I had to watch him for a week right after Sander was born. I had like a week where I was like, gonna be full on with him. So we powered through Accelerando, and I remember being so mind-blown. Like, I didn't know you could write a book like that, where at the beginning of each chapter he's like, It's the year 3700, whatever, post-singularity, blah blah blah. This happened, and he's like talking about time and dimensions and fucking technology, and he's like, Yeah, the nano dust cloud has now taken over, so everything is like this. I'm like, What the fuck? Like, how did how does he even do this? And it was so uh riveting for me that it's like the medium because I kind of forgot even what the book was about. I mean, it was very clever, but it was more the the world building, is what they call that.

SPEAKER_14 34:59

Yeah, I'm like, this is fucking you'll you'll probably like Neptune's brood, it's very similar. I like that. Is it Charles Strauss?

SPEAKER_05 35:06

Yeah, yeah. Okay, let me read that first and then get back to peripheral.

SPEAKER_14 35:09

This this one would be like if you took a Charles Strauss, that whole like experience you had, but then you made it kind of snow crashy.

SPEAKER_05 35:18

No, Cam, don't go saying that. Why? I don't think I don't think Mitch would like that. No, no, I'm definitely gonna like that. I'm gonna not read peripheral now.

SPEAKER_14 35:27

Like, you know how snow crash, it's like uh we were talking about a Did they talk about Enki and shit? Somebody used the word facetious, it's a little bit facetious, it's like kind of being flippant and silly about things. Whereas with like Accelerando, it's it's kind of being serious about it. Although there's a little bit of funniness too as well, but um, or like Asimov, right? He's like totally serious, yeah. You know, he's not like being silly, but like Snow Crash, like the guy's a pizza delivery driver for like the mafia.

SPEAKER_05 35:58

Yeah, it's like that's and they like have that funny terminology, like harpoons, they call them like pooning the fucking things on the road.

SPEAKER_14 36:04

I thought that was like yeah, so so Rapture of the Nerds has a lot of that where it's it's all kind of tongue in cheek, but also giving you serious ideas. I'm telling you, I was talking this.

SPEAKER_05 36:14

Neptune's brood or the rapture one?

SPEAKER_14 36:16

Rapture.

SPEAKER_05 36:17

Okay.

SPEAKER_14 36:18

It'd be like if if Charles Strauss sat down and was like, you know, all these things Cameron's been talking about. I think I'm gonna do him a favor. I'm gonna take all of them. I'm gonna take every single idea he's ever talked about on any podcast or anything, and I'm just gonna wrap it all into one sci-fi story and connect all the dots together completely. Transhumanism, transgenderism, uh uploading to the cloud, uh religious fervor, uh, like just like everything, apocalypse, like I'm telling you, it's like all of it in there. It's it's interesting. And as you read it, the the more sci-fi you've read, it's like every page he's referencing some either a philosophical idea that you've heard about or a specific um like a terminology he's borrowing from like another author. That they for that word, like like if like I I think he even says a peripheral in there as well. Well, I don't know if it was written before or after peripheral, but he but and that that may not that may not be a term that William Gibson coined, I don't know, but um he uses very specific, like even obscure shit that I only know because I had looked up a book one time and thought about reading it.

SPEAKER_05 37:27

I'm like, oh, it's using a word from porn for Cameron, basically.

SPEAKER_14 37:31

It's like it's like it's like uh the best the best way I can think about it is kind of like Ready Player One, where they use a lot of like pop culture references and stuff like that. But this is like all the references are from I haven't read Ready Player One, is it I watched the movie, I didn't yeah, but you know what I'm saying? You still get that whole it's like reference to Pac-Man and Mario and all that sure.

Ender’s Game And AI Zealotry

SPEAKER_03 37:52

You know what I liked about the movie? The lottery kind of theme to it. That's that's what I liked about it.

SPEAKER_05 37:57

You like the lottery theme? Okay, here's have you read Ender's Game? Yeah, I haven't honestly you have Drake Ender's Game. Yeah, I've read Ender's Game. Okay. So I was listening to this uh Did you watch the movie or read the book? No, I I haven't I haven't read either, but how it came onto my radar, like I had kind of heard about it, but that guy Demis Hisabas, he's like the guy behind Deep Mind and like does stuff with Google. Yeah, he uh I was listening to a podcast about his new book, and um he's like extreme. Uh very extreme. And um when he was a kid, he was in all these chess tournaments and stuff. It reminds me a lot of actually how you're racing Max, but he was like winning chess stuff at age nine or whatever. Um but then his dad was super abusive, though, so that's the part where it splits because Cameron's not like that. I mean, the dad's like yelling at him after chess matches, like, why the fuck did you let that happen?

SPEAKER_14 38:54

All that yeah, that's why Max isn't obsessed with chess.

SPEAKER_05 38:57

I'm not making him feel like that. But then what's interesting is so uh Demis apparently when he was a kid read this book, Ender's Game, and it's like the plot is that there's like a kid who gets, I think, taken from his parents, he gets put in this elite military boarding school for like some some space thing. Demis is like, if only so that's but he said that he read that book, and then it helped flip his perception. Where one day he realized after the chess tournament, like everyone was leaving that place basically exhausted, they put all their mental power towards this, and he's like, This is dumb. Like, imagine all this mental power just going to a board game. Like, what if we actually had people working on solving problems for the world? So that was like an eye-opening experience for him, and so uh I just found that fascinating because I'm sure there's so many of these AI guys that are doing that shit that have used sci-fi, like sci-fi informed their whole worldview.

SPEAKER_03 39:57

But I'll I'll tell you we can come in with that next level of it, right? I'll tell you that that book.

SPEAKER_05 40:02

I was like, I didn't really like it. Had you were you already started with TT in the whole process? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 40:10

I the reason why I didn't like it, because it was just like really abusive towards children. It's just like fuck these kids up. Like fucking break that kid's arm, make this kid feel like like he's uh you know the the cause of all the problems in the world. Just lie to him, just fucking do whatever you gotta do to like turn this child into a machine for you, basically. It was it was very ruthless towards children, right? Interesting, dude.

SPEAKER_14 40:36

I want to play this a little quick. I I sent it to you guys, I think, but um it kind of is along the lines of what you were just saying, Mitch. But uh Did you guys watch this one?

SPEAKER_03 40:47

Yes, I I watched I would have watched her. I have to put the sound on.

SPEAKER_14 40:50

Hold on one second.

SPEAKER_03 40:51

It's uh it's that girl.

SPEAKER_00 40:52

How much they genuinely believe that they are on the path to creating something akin to an AI god and that this is going to have cataclysmic shifts on civilization. And they've developed an entire vocabulary around this. Like when you listen to them talk, if you have not been exposed to their fanaticism in the past, you wouldn't even understand what they're saying because their vocabulary has become so specialized.

SPEAKER_12 41:14

And it's actually due to a lot because of science fiction, but also science fiction also gives you the parallel, like, for example, foundation they end up destroying all the robots, and then like in Doomday, same thing happened, they destroy all the AI as well.

SPEAKER_00 41:27

There is definitely a science fiction element to it, which is that a lot of the people who work in the AI industry and are big fanatics of creating AI were huge science fiction buffs growing up.

Who Decides What Is Best

SPEAKER_05 41:40

Yeah. Let's see that it is obvious, yeah. You know, so so this is what's interesting because I was at uh the mall yesterday because me and Jess was like, I could probably pack in two hours if you guys just leave the house. Can you just take the kids? So it's like great. So we walked around the bookstore at the mall, and uh I found the book. So I I got it and I started reading it. And which book? Uh Ender's Game. No, uh The Guy Demis Hassabas. It's like a brand new book that just came out. This guy profiled him and I'm glad I asked which book. Yeah, yeah. But but he he like goes in on Ender's Game. Like it, there's so much that that was such pivotal to his worldview. But um the reason I find it fascinating is because he is like one of the most missionary evangelist zealot type. I don't know if zealot would be the right word, but he's like so on a quest to try and figure out how to make this hyper-intelligent AI god thing. And then he's really into the neuroscience. So he's like the system's perfect person to be the front runner. I mean he won a Nobel Prize and stuff, but he has this, so he's like trying to bring through this idea of like, I want to live my best life and I want to make make the world quote unquote be as best as it can be through using AI to get there. So it's like the the systems version of of this. So I'm like seeing this, and he goes, He's hyper competitive, so he's like, if I do my absolute best, I basically have to push the limit. So he gives the example like if I'm gonna do my best in a marathon, I need to push myself to the extreme where literally I cross that finish line and I pass out and I'm in the hospital, so I don't die, but I did my best. That's his version of best. Like, wow, like it gives you the perception of how the elite would look at, oh, this is my best effort when he's not really fast.

SPEAKER_03 43:32

Just the way that you're expressing that right now, you know, one of the things that it's really clear as you're saying that is the problem that people have with best for all is that they don't trust other people, you know, like like there's so much to it.

SPEAKER_05 43:50

And is it like best for all in this exact moment, or is it like a a net best for all, you know? Because for example, if if I'm gonna do my best in a Marathon and fucking almost die. Well, what if my actual you know, if my actual purpose is I want to be the best marathon runner for the rest of my life, I would probably act differently. So it's just all it's just like throwing shit at the wall, claiming it's best, kind of seeing what sticks.

SPEAKER_03 44:16

Well, okay, so so people don't trust first of all, they don't trust themselves. That's the huge part, right? Uh they equate best with suffering. That's a good point, Kitty. Um, they don't trust other people, and then it's like they they have a just a bias towards like like what what are you calling best, and I don't agree with that, and I don't think you can get it done even because there if you think about it, there's certain people that they would put in a position of like, hey, I want to get the best result for this. There's certain people that they would trust to get that result, right? Like, I don't know, I'm I'm sure you can imagine um, I want the best electric vehicle, and you're like, okay, I'm gonna get Elon Musk to build that for me, or whatever, you know, and and you would trust that, or or they would trust that. I'm saying, like, just the average person, but then when somebody's saying, Hey, I'm gonna make the world best, like there's an immediate for the average person, immediate like the first question is like, I don't know you, I don't know what does best mean. You know, good intentions actually for me, you know. Like, I'm I'm sure.

SPEAKER_05 45:29

Dude, it really like forces a point though. It because it it brings it up because no one's ever pushed best for all, really. Yeah. Ever. That's kind of like the make the highest good. That that like kind of caught on in the spiritual circles.

SPEAKER_03 45:43

I mean, you had Jesus, like consider this because um, you know, there was uh what's what's the guy's name, Thomas Moore, uh, who came up with a book uh about utopia, right? Right, and and that was that was actually like it was shitting on the idea that there could even possibly be a best for all. That's what the purpose of that was, you know, so so people have been trying to bring something to the surface, right? But like I I want to look into that even more now, understanding uh Thomas Jefferson a little bit more, and and you know, the our founding fathers, and how their their view of Christianity was and all of that, because it it's almost the way that I thought about it before was that everyone just kind of had this idea that that's not possible, but only based on that book, right? But now with the understanding of like the way that Thomas Jefferson was actually a really critical thinker who's looking at like you know history, ethics, and you know, looking at how you know Christianity's presented and it how it just doesn't make sense, and he's looking at what would be best within that context from what from what he knows, you know. And uh it makes me wonder, did they actually have within them the thought of it could be possible maybe in the future, maybe as we we go on with technology, maybe we don't have the resources right now to do that, and and then somebody is coming in and going, no, no, no, here's all the reasons why it wouldn't work, because it you know, you'd have to have some dictator in control and this and that, and see that this would never work out, and and so it can never just be best, and and so you just gotta be it enjoying what you have right now, and you know, just basically keeping people down. I don't know.

SPEAKER_14 47:49

I'm I'm just speculating right now as I'm I'm thinking about it, as I'm yeah, but but also the starting point within Dimmus Hosabius is like uh I don't know him obviously, but it's it come it it's coming from a point of what he's experiencing as himself and trying to push that experience of himself to a certain extreme. So even when the person says, Oh, because you know it'll be best, it's not really actually how they're thinking about it within themselves. Like they're not actually thinking about best for all, they're just uh imagining themselves being the person that creates this thing, or you know, it's like an extreme peak experience within themselves that they're going for. So this the actual self-honesty of what they're doing, it's not about best for all. Because best for all is much more mundane than that, and we don't need um AI to create what's best for all because it that's not it's not to say that it couldn't aid us in continuing to improve things in a way that's best for all, but that's not how people are looking at it. They're like, if we create this, this intelligence will solve all our problems for us, which implies we really can't solve any of our problems right now. How is that gonna change the fact that people aren't considering um that you should give as you want to receive? Like it's an internal thing that we're all accepting. How is an AI gonna change that? Right. It it'll only just add to the uh not taking responsibility for things because it can solve a lot of problems for us, so I don't need to change. So it's missing the point.

SPEAKER_03 49:40

So okay, so but the reason why I was bringing that that up is because I could see that like this guy doesn't know what's best for all. But then I could also see that that would be the immediate thought that um somebody who doesn't know us might have. It's like like you know, as soon as you say best for all, that's probably the immediate thought that they have is uh how are like I I don't trust that that's actually gonna be best, right? Right, which is obviously why we explain and why you know but yeah, I'm not asking the person to trust me, right?

SPEAKER_14 50:15

That's not the point. The point is I'm supporting them to see this for themselves, not trust me, give me power so I can go do what's best for all. Like, that's not even the starting point of it. It's to get the other person to realize, oh, I should actually live from what's best for all. Someone says, Well, how can we know what's best for all? It's like, well, shouldn't we try to figure it out? Let's let's let's were are you considering it now? Yeah, or are you saying, well, how can we know, therefore, I'm not gonna consider it? Like, which is it? You know, yeah, yeah, because it doesn't mean just suddenly all the problems are solved, but they will never be solved. And this is a perfect example of it. If no one has that starting point, then you then there's gonna be expressions in our world of people who are like, Well, I'm gonna solve all the problems then. And I I think it's this way. So you create a computer under the idea that intelligence itself will solve all the problems, but intelligence in itself, it's not like there's just not enough of one intelligence, or like intelligence has been pushed to the limit enough to solve all the problems. And the way they're trying to do it is with a computer. It doesn't make logical sense, like a computer can't solve all the problems, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 51:26

Or he's like, Yeah, I also wanted to understand neuroscience because uh then you can understand the mind because our mind comes from map basically mapping our neuroscience. This is like his his assumption, right? Right, and uh, and then there's lines where he's like, Yeah, because you know the mind creates reality, and I'm like, aha. So yeah, because you you can see it, like that's why I enjoy reading it because you can see now this is one of the main guys in the world fucking pushing it forward. So I can just see for myself, like, this is what he's saying, I can see the flaw in it, but it also now helps me have more context by which I can help really get through. Yeah, we're here to help people.

SPEAKER_03 52:06

Does neuroscience uh map every single cell in the body?

SPEAKER_05 52:12

Probably not, it's probably just the neurons.

SPEAKER_14 52:15

Okay, so it's also super limited. I mean, of course, it's it's not that if you study neuroscience, there isn't a lot of information there, but it's all so limited actually, in terms of the total context of everything. It's it's the the base assumption is that like your your mind comes from your brain. If I could just figure out how this thing works, I'll know everything. Yeah, I'll know how we think. I'll and it's like, no, there's aspects to your mind that you can't physically observe. Like you can't run an experiment to prove it. Not with the way science is right now. Yeah, we don't even understand how quantum mechanics works.

SPEAKER_03 52:52

It's interesting because there's like a lot of like base assumptions that are like that, where it's like, okay, but you're assuming I assume that thing, and then you're you're like taking that as if that's fact and then running with it. And you know, we've had this conversation a lot of times, many times, you know, within um within math, even it's like, okay, so but I would have to assume that all those things that you said before were true. And if they are true, then okay, yes, I can see how you could get to this conclusion. But if they're not true, that is like a moot point. Like it, it's it's just a fun exercise that you're doing for no real purpose, you know.

SPEAKER_14 53:42

Okay, I gotta tell you this concept uh from the book I'm reading. Go ahead. So I'm not gonna give too much context because it'll spoil things, but what book are you reading? Rapture of the Nerds. I'm almost done. I'm like this much left. Revenge of the Nerds.

SPEAKER_05 53:58

Is it going on the book list, Cameron? Is it's good enough to do this. Oh, for sure. 100%.

SPEAKER_14 54:01

Top of the list.

SPEAKER_03 54:02

Oh, sweet. All right. I'll tell you what book I'm reading right now, Cam. What? You would not like it.

unknown 54:08

I'm reading.

SPEAKER_14 54:10

Demon? Demon. Um I'm gonna go back and read all of them. I'm reading it. But I just the style, what is it? It's the style. You know what? Okay, so that's you know what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_03 54:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 54:24

I don't know how to explain it. I do know how to explain it. I don't want to impose my preference on everybody because I think there's value in reading the books.

SPEAKER_03 54:30

I I will say this. I will say this. Christine really enjoyed it. I do think there's value in it. Like I'm I'm getting a lot out of it. I just think your vegetable style.

SPEAKER_14 54:40

Yeah, I think, especially in terms of understanding a lot of the adding to the context of how the elite are thinking about what they're doing. I think there's a lot in there.

SPEAKER_03 54:49

There's there's so it's it's actually uh okay. If I'm not shitting on it, it is fun, it is like it's very entertaining. It is there's a lot to it, and there's you know, there's uh it'll make you think like, oh, that's cool. That that's a cool concept, like very interesting. Um, the way I perceive it is it's kind of like you know what it is. I have this thing, and I I think you have this too, Cam. Uh, when something's like becomes really popular, yeah, you know, it's just like I'm not that that interested in it anymore.

SPEAKER_14 55:29

I don't know, I I don't know if it's that, but it has that sort of a style to it. It's kind of like reading Yeah, Katie said it's not high vocabulary or poetic. Yeah, it's it I I think it's more like um we read so much, and there's there's a lot of literature that's just just really I don't know. It it's it's it's like I always say it's like reading Tom Clancy.

SPEAKER_03 55:58

Yeah, I don't know about that. I I think it's more like it's like a to me, it's like watching an HBO movie. That's what it's like to me. Yeah, well it's actually that's a good movie.

SPEAKER_14 56:08

I don't really like watching, I don't like watching shows and TV and movies and I'd rather read Yes.

SPEAKER_03 56:13

So it's like watching an HBO show. We're like this is what I was telling Christine. I'm like, this is every HBO show, period. It's got some like you know, uh very exciting like drama. There's like a murder, like something, you know, and like there's like uh you know this romance going on over here, and that is like it's like watching an HBO show. They're very popular, people love them. It's not my style. I see what the appeal is, but yeah, you know, but but I I am getting good things out of it.

SPEAKER_14 56:47

I will I will read the rest of his books. Um but uh what was I gonna say?

SPEAKER_03 56:54

The lighting is dark as hell, yeah. I mean Emmy gets it, she knows.

unknown 56:58

What is it?

SPEAKER_14 57:00

Oh um that's funny. Okay, so the book I'm reading right now, it's called Rapture of the Nerds. There's a whole lot of context. The book goes all over the place, like so there's no way I could sum it up very easily. Um, but there's there's a part where someone's in sort of let's just say, so I don't spoil it, we'll assume it's more like they're in a virtual reality. So that won't spoil it because it's not actually the case. But let's assume you're like in a virtual reality, kind of. And you're not tied to your physical information processing. Like literally, you can anything you imagine can be true, right? And you would experience it physically in this virtual reality, let's say. Um, but there's this part where the character is trying to bide their time, and so they can um they can by by by use by spending more processing time, they can they can experience like a whole year that sub that objectively is only like one second. So they call it subjective time. So they can go and like spend like five years like studying something and then come back, and it's only been like in the middle of a conversation, and it's like they can slow down.

SPEAKER_05 58:09

I could go re-peripheral and then come back.

Psychosis Religion And Power

SPEAKER_14 58:10

Like I could slow everything down so you guys are like, and then I'm off doing whatever I want to do, but like in another dimension. Okay, so so there's this part where they spend like I think it said like a hundred years just watching TV. And but the the reason why is because they're trying to take a break from something, and they're watching this TV channel, and they say that it's being like it's like you can just infinitely click next channel, next channel, next channel. But uh because it's being generated by the let's say the computer that they're also in, this computer can spin up copies of the person. So they can take everything about the person, their memories, everything, and they can spin up simulations of the person. So it can spin up like a billion simulations of the person and utilize that data to in real time generate the exact perfect thing for them to watch. That is like they're and they they kind of described because the person's like they were into pottery, and it said they were basically like scrolling channel after channel of softcore pornography that had to do with pottery. So it's like you know, like watching an HBO, like Game of Thrones, kind of like that level of pornography, but so like you're seeing that, but then it's also all centered around pottery, and they're like, Oh, I didn't know you could do that kind of a glaze, and so in other words, it's like so silly, right? But it was perfect for the person watching it, right? And that that concept of spinning up the simulations, right? Where they're not just predicting from an algorithm what would be because that's something we've talked about before, right? Where the algorithm will know exactly what you want to see, right? But the idea that it could spin up a sim, like multiple and the and they were even going through this guilt process because they're also technically a simulation, and they were like, Man, this this computer's making perhaps a million, a billion copies of me, and then when I click the channel, that means I didn't really enjoy that. So all the simulations that went into that particular channel, they all get deleted immediately because then it's like, okay, I have to spin up new ones and predict where they're at now to give you the next thing, and it's like I'm mass murdering people because it sees those spot simulations as equal to it, because it knows it's a simulation, right? Right, right. So it's like it's literally just like creating new copies of people and then killing them just so I can like watch TV. Um, and the reason I'm bringing it up is because I when I was reading this, I'm like, oh, that's why Meta wants to uh perfectly model how our brain responds to stimuli because they have that new model that they're coming out with, right? That they just released that they're training and so forth. And it just took that whole concept to another level of like it's not just like an algorithmic, okay, you looked at that before, so you like stuff like that, and they can connect that you know into a kind of an idea of what you'll want to see. Now they want to model perfectly your so imagine everything you're looking at. Imagine if they were able to model your brain, activity, whatever, the way you respond to stuff. So not only the stuff you're looking at is giving them feedback, but then they can run potential things they want to show you against a model of your brain to predict how you'll respond to it. In other words, it's not just a guess at okay, you like these things, so let's put something in front of you based on all the things you like that we've predicted, based on what you've scrolled at and looked at and clicked on and lingered on. They can also, before they make the calculation of what to show you, not only use that data, but run it against multiple modelings of how you're gonna respond to the stimulus. Not just if you like it, but they can like that's what they're modeling right now. They're like, we have this project where we can model perfectly how the brain, you know, we we test real people and see how they respond when they see a cat. Okay, let's run our model of how the brain works and see how it responds to the cat. Oh, look, it's the same neural activity. Cool. Our model actually, you see what I'm saying? So they'll be it's it's a whole nother level of prediction to to know exactly what to present to you and and why to present that particular thing at this moment. You see what I'm saying? So it again, the demis hasabi thing, it's like, or hasabis, it's like they want to be God, they want to create God because God will know everything about you. And dude, oh man, on the live streams I've been doing, we were talking about uh the past three or four of them. I've really been going into the point about schizophrenia and delusion and psychosis and tying it back to religion. And I was I was looking up um okay, so so there's one thing we were going into, which was like, what is delusion? Like what is what is psychosis? And I was showing all these examples. Remember, we talked about Francis Edeck, that guy with his crazy rants and shit, right?

SPEAKER_13 1:03:34

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_14 1:03:35

And and they were we were looking at what are the features of that, and one of them being like you have this idea that there's something external out there that's controlling you and controlling reality. So then I go look up what is God in in in Islam, yeah. And and literally their idea is that it's 100% in control of everything at all times. You do not have free will, yeah. And so the only way to navigate this world is just to trust Allah, right? And so I'm like, okay, but what's the point of that?

SPEAKER_05 1:04:04

I don't get it. It it's not that there is no point, but it's like it's like the medium and the message thing.

SPEAKER_14 1:04:10

The effect of it is you're still I'm gonna give you my insight that I've had. Okay, I'm gonna give you my insight.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:18

It's like it's not even in you to question it, Drake.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:20

Like you don't have free will, so then why would somebody care if you're Muslim or not? Like, why would a Muslim care?

SPEAKER_14 1:04:31

Because there's a level to which I was thinking about it, like in the context of Islam, God, you have to trust God. He gives you the rules, like these are the things you must do. Okay, and if you do them, you're it shows that you're trusting God.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:46

But if he's 100% in control all the time, what does it matter?

SPEAKER_14 1:04:53

Because uh it doesn't, I'm not saying it actually is coherent, but the idea is that the way you go to heaven is by showing your trust in God. And and so all of your choices are actually a test.

SPEAKER_18 1:05:07

In your own. You're just being tested. Anyway.

SPEAKER_14 1:05:12

I know. I I'm not sure. You can't make it make sense. Like you, it's it's if you use common sense, it's easy to see through it. Okay, so so let me just make this point. This this is my big this is my big insight, I've realized, from doing all these streams the past few weeks. Um it's really obvious when you look at people who are in a psychotic delusion that they're delusional, right? From the outside, it's very obvious. Like we watched we watched some software underbelly, we watched just random people um talking about their process of being schizophrenic and their experiences and everything. And there was this one guy we a few of them, but there was one we listened to where he was abused as a child multiple times, like sexual abuse. And then right after that, he started seeing things like shadow people and hearing weird noises and stuff. And then it like grew and grew and grew over time. But he made he he makes this point of like it wasn't until like he was sort of more of an adult that he learned about um schizophrenia. And and he was saying when he was a kid, okay, I'll just tell you real quick. So there was this experience he had, it was after some of this abuse happened. He's sitting in his house, his parents and family was downstairs watching TV, he was in his room, and he started hearing like instruments almost like tuning up in an orchestra or something. And there's this song by the Beatles, he was he was using it as a reference. I I think it's called A Day in the Life or something, but it's a Beatles song where at the end of the song you have these like instruments like doing like this weird cacophonous noise that like builds up and builds up and builds up to the end of the song. And he said he couldn't listen to that song for like a long time because it would remind him of this experience he had where it was like he's sitting in his room and he's hearing like music, but it's not like music, it's just like instruments all randomly tuning up, and it became it got to this crescendo so loud he was like he was like he was assuming that everybody in the fucking neighborhood could hear it. It was that's how loud it was, and it like built up to this loud sound and then just like stopped. And he was like, What the fuck was that? And mention he's a 10-year-old kid, and he's he looked like he was probably like around my age. So when you're a kid, these things are not well understood. He might have been even older than me. So, like, you know, imagine going back in time where people don't even know what the fuck is schizophrenia, or no one's talking about it, no one's really aware. Um, so he goes downstairs, talk to his parents, and he's like, What was that sound? And they're like, Sound? Like, no, there's no sound, like, go back to bed. And I think the other thing, if I'm not mistaken, was he also then, after the sound, saw like shadowy figures like in his peripheral. Like he could, if he looked at him directly, it would disappear. But he would see these like demon-like, weird, scribbly, dark, shadowy figures that he could see very clearly, like right here. But if he looked at it, it was gone. So he's like going downstairs and he's telling his parents, like, uh, um, what was that sound? And they're like, nothing. There was no sound, like you're it didn't happen. And just go back to your bed. And he's like, Fuck, I have to go back to my room, right? Like, I don't want to go back up there. So separately, he's talking about he's he's would spend a lot of time with his grandmother because she was the only one who would really pay attention to him, and she was super religious, and she would always talk about demons, okay, and how they're real, and people can be possessed by demons, and you have to have faith in God. And it's funny because as I'm listening to his story, implicitly I have the assumption because he's telling the story now where he knows it's not real, but it's like it didn't click until a certain point where I realized, oh, when he was a kid and this was happening, he didn't know it wasn't real. So he's assuming these things is it's really happening, but no one's really listening to him, or or he's not able to really communicate it to anybody. But when he hears about demons from his grandmother, he's like, Oh, these are demons. And I have to have faith in God. So he'd be like walking to school, being like, I have faith in God, you know, like he was like he was thinking it was like a test of his faith. Like, if I can really have faith in God, it'll it'll push these things away.

SPEAKER_17 1:09:27

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_14 1:09:28

So there's so many examples like this, right? And there was another guy I was listening to talking about his experience of being part of a hyper-charismatic church where he would have these like intense visions from God, and he was like on a mission to proselytize and like bring people into like faith in God and everything. And then it was so weird because he realized he was schizophrenic. Finally, people convinced him he has a mental illness, so now he's just a Catholic. And I'm like, okay, but and he was saying things like, I know that these demons that people have, it's really just mental illness. I'm like, but the Catholic Church has actual priests that do demon exorcisms, yeah, yeah, yeah. And those visions you had, okay, you were crazy, but the whole Catholic faith is founded upon Saint Paul, who literally had a vision, a blinding vision, you know, a blinding experience, and then Jesus talked to him. So why is that guy not delusional? But you're delusional, yeah. Um, and then and then the point I realized about that is because the Catholic Church doesn't want anyone else to be able to say right very exclusive to the authority, yeah, to be like, no, like I talk to Jesus, follow me. And like it's like come it's a competition, right? So they want to be the only ones that get to have that. But here's what I here's what I realized. Um because you know, the other day we were talking on a meeting about like, did these do the elite really believe this shit that they're saying? You know, like does Trump really believe in Jesus? Does he really believe in heaven? You know, or maybe it's not Jesus, does he believe in God? Whatever. But I realized we have this assumption that the elite actually are superior, like they know what they're doing. But when I was listening to uh, I think you guys have seen that soft white underbelly with the guy who's a clown. Do you guys remember this one? And he was describing his OCD and how he would have like these thoughts, like he would put something down, and and then like this thought would pop up of like your your family's gonna die. And he's like, Ah shit. Okay, I have to put it back down. My family's gonna be safe. And then he was like, Well, I s it was it was my family was gonna die, but I've said one, my family's gonna be safe, so that's not enough to cancel it out because I have to do it again. Okay, family's gonna be safe. So now I've got two to one, but two plus one is three, and that's like 13, okay. So I gotta do it again. My family's gonna be safe. And like he would have this like ritual he would have to go through to cancel out the negative thought, right? Like, it's it's insane, and he like it spiraled way out of control throughout his whole life. Like, he that's just like the beginning of it. And I'm like, oh all of the everybody in our world, the elite included, are actually mentally ill. Yeah, and it's like this assumption when you're arguing with people about God, Jesus, whatever, that they actually just believe it because it's logical. Like they've they've arrived at the conclusion through like actually considering it, and it makes sense. It doesn't make sense, like they're actually mentally ill, they have weird, negative, intrusive thoughts, and they've been told, no, that's a demon, or that's because you're not praying to God enough, or whatever the particular context is, they're actually having a lot of fucking inner turmoil and negative thoughts and feelings and shit that's really bad. Like they're they're they're basically OCD, they're basically schizophrenic. Schizophrenic doesn't just mean you hear thoughts, you have a lot of negative experiences, usually from some kind of abuse or something, and then the thoughts come in and you have to find a way to kind of counter it or deal with it. And so I'm I guess what I'm trying to say is everybody's mentally ill. And so they don't believe the religious stuff because they just arrived at it, it makes sense, okay, this is clear. They have some really fucked up shit that they're trying to deal with inside of themselves, and this seems like the way to deal with it. So even the elite, like who are out there like, praise God, and all this stuff, it's it's a part of their psychosis, actually. It's not that they either believe it or they're just lying to us because it manipulates the sheep. There may be some level to that with some of them. You can't really say because it's hard to tell are they acting or not. But I really think like Ivanka Trump, like she's Jewish, right? And they believe in whatever the Jews believe. Or you have people who are Christian and they believe all that shit, and you're like, are they really trying to bring out the bring about the fucking apocalypse? I'm like, they probably are, like, because these belief systems are there to help them deal with their fucking trauma. I don't know if I'm getting the point across let me let me let me add to that because it's kind of like I gotta go because I gotta pack, but I'm gonna listen in. So all right, see image. All right, see image.

SPEAKER_13 1:14:26

I'll see you out.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:27

Yeah, pick me up from the airport.

SPEAKER_13 1:14:29

Okay, please, please don't forget. Please. Oh, I'll bring agency. I'll do it.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:34

I'll bring agency, I promise.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:35

Bring it, bring it, and I'll pick you up from air. Alright, all right, see you guys. I'm not picking them up. Um what was I gonna say? Oh, okay. It's it's sort of like the same way. Like, are they trying to bring about the apocalypse? Yeah, in the very same way that the you know, AI people are trying to create robots and trying to because it's their belief system, actually. Because think about that story with the Desmos guy, whatever his name is, right? Um, like he uh was traumatized, right? Then he reads this book about a kid who's traumatized, right, and then goes on to save the world, and he's like, Oh, I can be that kid, I can use my trauma to like focus and save the world in some way. But even as you read that book, it's like it's really fucked up, it's really fucked up, you know? Um, like very entertaining. That's one of those books, like I I was like, ah, I hate this. Can't put it down. Yeah, like turning the page. But it's like within all of these tech people, they I am certain all the big names that we know have all been traumatized in some way.

SPEAKER_14 1:15:56

I am certain of that. Well, look at um Elon Musk, like how he does ketamine and yeah, all these points. Like, you're not doing that stuff if you feel good within yourself.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:06

Right, right. And and so, in some way, there's like some idea within the sci-fi that they read or whatever, that they were like that they fantasize, they romanticize that, and and and they have this like fantasy about that, and like I can create that, and how cool and and here's you know that uh clip of uh Andoril? Lucky Palmer, Lucky, Lucky Palmer, Lucky Palmer, Lucky Palmer, Lucky Palmer, where uh do you have that clip? Maybe I can find it really quick. But he's like basically he's on the Joe Rogan podcast and the headset thing, yeah. With the headset, yeah.

SPEAKER_14 1:16:50

And he's like basically just like he's like, how lucky am I to be born at this time?

SPEAKER_03 1:16:57

Yes, I get to create stuff totally just like gushing over himself about the things that he's created. And I I want to show that. I I I need to show it. Here it is, I found it.

SPEAKER_18 1:17:08

Here we go.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:09

I need to show it because just watch this for those of you who do not stay up late for fucking five hours, you know, watching camp that's watching, so just watch for a moment.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:22

So the blue force is my friendlies. So see that little right-hand corner where it sees behind the containers?

SPEAKER_02 1:17:28

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:29

They're tracking where the bad guy is. They're tracking where my guys are, and then watch when they go behind the container. So I can actually see now they're engaging the guy over there, and he's down. Imagine the guy's coming over hill, and I want to engage him. So actually, there we go. So, um, this is a system that allows everybody to basically be operating this one one combined high find where you can all share a view of the world. And by the way, this view that I have, it's shared now with all of the robots as well. So, all the dr- anything I see, like let's see I see someone inside of a building, every drone and every person now sees that person where he is. It's so crazy that I was born at the right time to actually get to build all the drone that's watching.

Manosphere Algorithms And Insecurity

SPEAKER_03 1:18:20

He's geeking out, right, over what is essentially, what is essentially playing Call of Duty or whatever the game was, you know, when when he's a kid, right? And like, oh man, this is so cool. Imagine if it could do this too, and then imagine if we could do that in real life, you know? And and and I wanted to share that because if you think about it, I'm always considering this point. Um you kind of mentioned it when you were talking about the schizophrenic guy. Um when you're a kid, you don't know what's right or wrong. You don't know the things that make sense and don't. You assume that because an adult or because it's on some sort of television show or it looks like a professional production or whatever, you assume that this is sanctioned for you to for your eyes and for your ears and for your understanding in some fashion. Or if it was adult content, that the adults agree with it. That that this is real, this is true. And and on that point, I just want to share this. Because um it's like I I realized this when I was watching this guy, and I'll show you the the clip real quick. Because I get so fucking annoyed with this guy. Cam. You know who this is? Clavicular. I get so annoyed with him because I'm like, why are people watching him? He's so feminine. Right? Watch this clip. Watch this.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:14

You hype max, you get a girl, you bring her home.

SPEAKER_15 1:20:18

How do you get away with like because you're gonna drop in or drop in height? Right. So what you can either do is you can wait until you're in the bed to kick your shoes off, and that way she won't be able to perceive the height because you're you're letting down your horizontal. But uh, if you are forced to take off your shoes for whatever reason, you can snap your pants down so that they uh conceal your your heels and you can tiptoe max uh is a good method.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:51

So just for the audience who's unaware, he's talking about you height max, you put on some shoes that give you a boost in height. You get a girl, and then you're back at her place, and now she's going to realize you're not actually that height, that you're actually much shorter. So, what do you have to do? You you when you kick off your shoes, you sag your pants to conceal your heels so you can tiptoe so that she won't realize that you're not actually that height.

SPEAKER_14 1:21:20

It's funny because the way he says that you gotta tiptoe, Max makes it seem like it's a joke. But it's I don't think it's also a joke either.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:32

I think he's actually trying to give tips on how to I think this guy's 100% serious, but I also think I I also see he's very feminine. He this is not a man like so so to me, I'm like, how do how can people take him seriously? And the reason why is because put yourself in the shoes of a 12-year-old kid, right? Who maybe you're starting to think about girls, maybe you've been thinking about girls, you don't have a girlfriend yet, you've never had sex before. Maybe I don't know. I don't know what kids do these days, but just like the mindset of like what you're thinking, what you've heard people say, the movies you've seen, all of this has geared you towards um, you want to have sex, you're thinking about it now, you're thinking about relationships, and you don't know how, and nobody's really talking to you and explaining that to you, or there's no understanding, and so then you are impulsed with this guy, clavicular. Because that's that's who this is going to.

SPEAKER_13 1:22:38

Sure, yeah. You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:41

Because it's not going to me. I'm looking at this fucking fool like fuck the fuck out of here. Like, this is stupid as stupid as fuck. But but you you take a 12-year-old, you take a 16-year-old, right? They're looking at this guy. This guy's attractive. Uh he seems like he gets women, he he seems confident in some sense.

SPEAKER_14 1:23:03

He's got a lot of followers, therefore, he has like a celebrity status.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:07

And he's being pushed in front of me. So this must be like what's actually popular. This must be what actually is real. Like this, he must be spitting some game here. I gotta listen. Okay, I gotta hype max, I gotta looks max, I gotta like, but it's all this stuff is actually, you know, obviously, like I've been saying, very feminine. If you're like really if you're a guy really concerned with your looks, so that you can, you know, get laid and like oh, how how are other people receiving? You're just constantly just thinking about it.

SPEAKER_14 1:23:39

Well, also, even the point of of getting laid and getting that particular woman, it it's actually you don't even care about them at all. Like, yeah, you it's a status. Probably don't even care that much about the sex experience. It's it's the status thing. It's the like I know because I've been there in my life where it's like seeing that the person I'm with is a reflection of my self-esteem, really. Yes, 100%.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:07

And and and that's what I'm saying is that is who this is going to. It's going to those kids, and then the people who are still within that, and and maybe they've entered into their 20s and they're still like like Nick Fuentes. I didn't realize Nick Fuentes like openly says apparently that he's a virgin and never had a he's not interested in women. Like wait a minute.

SPEAKER_14 1:24:34

He's very like, but again, then then claiming that that's like masculine, which I I get there's certain points where for men, they don't want to be with women all the time. Like you don't want to sit around with women doing women things. So I can understand that. I understand that. I understand that, right? But but he's very much like it it feels it seems like he's concealing the fact that he actually doesn't like women, like yeah, like that he has like some animosity towards women or something, like hostility towards women.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:10

It's it's weird, yeah. But the point that I'm making is like these are the people who are picked up in the algorithm, which I personally don't think it's just as simple as like the algorithm likes you, and and we're just gonna spread your your stuff, your content. I think there's somebody behind the scenes who's like you know, maybe CIA, like some sort of intelligence agency that's like going, okay, this is our guy, make sure his content gets up. Make sure this this this guy too, yep, he's got he's got a green light, yep. We'll call you if anything changes.

SPEAKER_14 1:25:52

You know, yeah, and I think there's probably some level where they they boost things. It could also be that the guys know how to game the algorithm, but I think if they were saying something that truly was gonna cause a problem, they would be de boosted if that makes sense.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:10

Um how do you do you even listen to the podcast?

SPEAKER_14 1:26:17

Jeez, um even to tie that point to what I was saying earlier, again, that is a form of mental illness, like this low self-esteem, needing something external to make you feel better. That where is that coming from? It's coming from some kind of lack you've experienced, and you've defined yourself as like an unequal, inferior point, and you're trying to like solve that problem somehow with something external.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:47

Yeah, I'm I'm also saying that this is a part of that. But as in, like it's not just because you've already felt that way that you're now seeing this content. This content is also meant to make you feel that way as well, so that they can sell you on the ideas and concepts in that content.

SPEAKER_14 1:27:06

Okay, but is it clear? I mean, I know the answer to this question, but it should be clear that this guy, Clavicular, assuming what he's presenting, is actually who he is, he's mentally ill.

SPEAKER_18 1:27:19

Obviously.

SPEAKER_14 1:27:20

Right? Like, like the whole starting point of everything he's saying, and so he's created his own religion around it that is, you know, this is the solution to your feelings of insecurity within yourself.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:33

Katie sent me one of his videos once. Uh, let me see if I can find it. She sent me one of his videos once, and I didn't I didn't see it till like much later, but it had me like, no way. Like, I I couldn't I couldn't believe it. Let me see. God damn it. Uh I don't know why it's not showing up here, but um, she sent me this video where he's basically like. Oh, oh here it is, here it is. Here it is. Here we go. Check this out. I don't know if you've seen this one. I watch all this stuff, so I've got to do that.

SPEAKER_16 1:28:10

Screen time's at an all-time high. People aren't really going out. Community's kind of in collapse. Less people have real friends. I I don't know the relevance of that. What do you mean? What's what's the relevance of that? What's kind of what you were just talking about? Not at all. Wanting to ascend and finding your place in the world. SMV.

SPEAKER_15 1:28:31

Engaging with the pharmacology.

SPEAKER_16 1:28:33

Oh yeah, but I'm kind of getting into your whole. Your goal is to help people ascend, right?

SPEAKER_15 1:28:36

Yeah, but I mean, like what what's the value there? I mean. And engaging with people in real life? Yeah, I mean, there's really not that many people that are worth interacting with, I would say. What do you mean? Like most people are extremely jest, or like they're funny, or like they're just like just have completely uh misprioritized lives. I would say the the average person that you meet uh who's like uh an enjoyer of sports, who drinks beer, for example, you know, let's go have a beer at the pub and watch Sunday football. Like that's the worst thing that you could do. Like you should be on PubMed reading various different studies on how you could look smacks.

SPEAKER_13 1:29:21

You don't think there's any you should be reading about how you can look smacks.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:28

You should be reading about how you you could look smacks. Like, okay. The point about the pub, sure, I I I'm there with you. But he's like, he he sees no value in human interaction.

SPEAKER_14 1:29:48

But he has a point also because most human interaction is total just irrelevant.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:55

But okay, how do you think the average like 16-year-old perceives that? Or 18-year-old even.

SPEAKER_14 1:30:02

I know, but it doesn't really matter because that 16-year-old's already mentally ill, is what I'm saying. Yes. So it's not like, oh, don't listen to clavicular, and therefore you'll be better. No, I I agree. I you know, so it's just a bunch of coping mechanisms and and different religions essentially just trying to help get people like to solve their mental fucking illness or have them to attack.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:26

Yeah, this is the environment that Keith with the bangers. Um, you should unpub because he said don't go to the pub. Oh, pub, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's good. Um no, but it this is what I'm saying. That is funny.

SPEAKER_14 1:30:44

He's like, Don't go to the pub, you should go to PubMed. That's actually pretty funny.

AI Teachers And Lost Friction

SPEAKER_03 1:30:48

This is the environment that is surrounding our our children, the next generation, right? How is that going to make anything any better? It's just piling on. And and I I'll show you this one. I'll show you this one. You'll like this one. I saw this one today, this morning, as I was uh trying to make my own Japanese card art. Um Japanese fart maxing. Yeah, it was Japanese fart maxing. Emmy knows about that. She knows about that. Because it's Japanese, she likes she's Oh god. Not because she farts. Not because she farts. I mean, maybe she does. I don't know. I think she leaves that to Julius. Alright, check this out. So this is the woman responding to the Melania Trump, right? Check it out.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:48

So this happened. It is an honor to be at fostering the feature together.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:52

So I'm just gonna skip past this part because we've all already seen this part.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:55

A humanoid built from the United States of America. I hope you realize this was the plan for a long time. I made videos about it. It was a matter of chipping away at public education for years, over testing, underfunding, pushing teachers out, ignoring the warning signs, breaking the system, and then replacing the humans who held the system together. And here I was naively thinking they would use video instruction to replace teachers, you know, putting all the kids in cafeteria or the auditorium or the gym and just showing instructional videos. Boy, they jumped right over that and went to AI robots. And people who aren't in public education or want public education to fail think that teaching is just pouring in content and it's more than that. It's trust, it's relationships, it's getting to know your students, it's knowing when something is off with them, and then stepping in, finding support, and pulling in the people, the humans, who can help them when they need more than just a lesson. And let's talk about this idea that AI will help critical thinking. No, critical thinking comes from friction and disagreements and having messy discussions with other people who have different opinions and coming to some kind of consensus or agreeing to disagree in human interactions, not when you're looking for just a highly optimized answer to be spit back at you. So let's stop pretending that this is about helping kids and ask yourself these questions. Why is the solution to remove teachers instead of fixing what is broken around them? Why are we trying to automate a profession that relies completely on human connections? And why are we solving a human problem by removing the humans?

SPEAKER_14 1:33:42

Bitch. You're talking about parenting. Yes, yes, yes, yes, exactly, exactly. Like you need someone who knows the child and has relationships with them and they trust and they have conversations and disagreements and like they know when something's wrong with the child. It's like that's called being a parent. Exactly. So she's literally in the we already broke parenting. Right, right. Now we got the schools, but she's a teacher, so she's like, no, this is we gotta fix the teaching.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:11

And I'm like, right, go all the way back to the exact that's the exact same point that I saw. That I was just like, okay, but she's asking, why are we not asking how do we fix uh the teacher the like fix the broken system around the teachers? No, no, no, go back further. Go back further. Why do we have to have teachers in the first place? Oh, well, because uh we have a system where the parents have to go to work, so why don't we fix that?

SPEAKER_14 1:34:40

You know, like like go all the way with it. But I did like her points about the robots because right before she even said the the point, I I could see it. It's like I like I I I had to go get some things yesterday and I took Max with me. And we were having a back and forth about something, I forget what the topic was, but he had a certain idea, and I was pushing back on it, like questioning what he was saying, and then he was like, you know, yes, but what about this? And like we're just you know, and like it was I wasn't there to tell him you're wrong. That's not the answer. It was like, okay, but did you consider this? What about that? Like, okay, does that actually make sense? We're just having a back and forth, it's like a real conversation, right? Almost like a debate, basically. You're never gonna have that with the robot. No, you're never gonna have that. It's just gonna give you the like she said, the optimized answer. And um there was a there was a video I was looking for because like I've been saying, I've been rarely using Chat GPT, and when I do, it's just um as like basically Google. Like you could just go to Google, it's AI anyways, now at this point. It is.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:53

Um, but we're gonna use AI to answer your questions.

SPEAKER_14 1:35:56

Uh right. So I've kind of just been using Google more now because I'm like, well, it's gonna be AI anyways. Um, but I was I was looking for a video and I remember something specific in the video. It was a it was a it was a guy who was describing like a schizo-effective experience that he went through as a young person. And I was trying to find that video, and like, you know, now when you search things on Goo on YouTube, like you don't it, it's it's it's so trash.

SPEAKER_09 1:36:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 1:36:22

So I'm like, I knew I couldn't find it that way. So I'm asking ChatGPT, like, okay, here's this video I saw, here's probably the time frame I saw it, here's what the guy was saying, and it helped me find that video. And it was coming up with a bunch of suggestions, but it kept saying things like, um, you know, uh, it was like the details, because the the it was about this guy who like had these hallucinations that he was hearing Obama talk to him on a radio, like giving him a mission or something. So I was describing that, and it was like, those details are what's making it feel real because those are so specific. Like it was trying to like make me feel good about the fact of like how I knew that the video really was a real video. That you know I'm like, what is this shit? Like it's like even just the way it talks to you, it's like trying to always kind of gas you up or something, you know what I mean? Trying to like get into your little asshole, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:12

Exactly.

SPEAKER_14 1:37:13

It's like I don't need you to fucking tell me, like, I'm so I don't know. It it's just it's it's super annoying, but also you just see this thing is never going to educate anybody effectively. It's not that's not the point of it. It's to just make you feel good. Yes, yeah, that's all it is.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:34

I mean for a child, for somebody who's immature, doesn't that feel good though? You know, like like like you don't know any better. You don't know any better. Like this is my friend.

SPEAKER_14 1:37:48

But like she said, the critical thing is also about friction. Yeah. Right?

SPEAKER_03 1:37:52

It's about the actual Yes, but also even the precursor to that is like you have to have some sort of knowledge, you have to have some sort of vocabulary. You know, like yes, that somebody has to challenge you. I'm like, okay, okay, okay. You know this, great. Can you put it in this other context?

unknown 1:38:13

Right?

Chickens Tools And Vocabulary For Thinking

SPEAKER_03 1:38:13

You know what that's like. But if you don't even have that, you you can't do uh I'll I'll give you an example. I'll give you an example. The other day, yesterday, actually, so long ago, let me let me start with that. Long ago, I had uh I got chickens, put them in my chicken coop, and we had created this, actually, I didn't create it. Uh my uncle-in-law, I call him my uncle-in-law because he that's what he is, but also because I like him. Um but anyway, my uncle, he came here and built like uh like some basically some bars where the the chickens can roost. Roosting bars. Roosting bars, yeah. And at first, that's where the chickens would go at night. They would all hang out there. And I was like, wow, this is so great, it's beautiful. And then uh after one night they stopped completely. They never went back to that spot. And I learned it was because when it rains, there's a leak in the roof right over where the roosting bars are. And so now they roost where their brooder box is, but on the very top of it, right? They they all will crowd themselves to be there because they know it's dry there, right? I'm like, all right, well, I wonder if there's something I can do about that, because I do want more chickens, right? They're very satisfied with staying there, they will not go back to the roosting bars, but uh I figured out uh I wanted to like just do like a yeah, see what I can do on my own. I figured out that the feed bags are waterproof, right? And the feed bag, the this one that I got is just the right size to fit that panel, right? And so then I stapled it to the wood there, and it caught all the water that was coming down. The only problem is the way because the the coop is on an incline, the way that the roof is inclined, it doesn't uh lead the water off to the side, it leads the water to the center of the coop, right? So now it's not going on the roosing bars, and so this this is my like I'll I'm like oh cool, I solved that problem, and not a lot of water actually comes through there, uh, like that leaks onto the ground. Nothing leaks onto the ground, it just sits in the bag, it like completely fills the bag, right? So then I'll go in there after it rains, and then I'm like basically putting buckets of water out, and the chickens go crazy when they hear that water splash, and they're like right, so but there's a little hole in one of the wood panels next to where the feed bag is. That I'm like, dude, if I had just a clear tube, I could just run the tube from where the feed bag is like heaviest, and just run it right through the center and right out that hole, and then there will never be a leak here again. Right? It'll all just empty out through the side of the the chicken cube. So I went to Lowe's, got one of those clear tubes, and uh I was asking the guys at Lowe's, like, hey, what do you what do you think as far as like a solution for this? I was thinking if I just got a bunch of silicone and like you know made like just siliconed it really tightly, they're like, Yeah, but maybe you you might need like a little funnel. Why don't you get like a suction cup and cut a hole through the suction cup and see if you can fit the tube through there and that? And I was like, okay, that that's a cool idea, I'll try that. So I got a suction cup, I cut a hole through it. I couldn't get the tube in there exactly, but I found like a a workaround with a pen. I used a pen and got the tube around the pen and like into the suction cup and all this, and then they they were like, Don't use silicone, use this type of glue or whatever. So I'm like, okay, because it'll it'll dry a lot faster. Silicone, you're gonna need like 48 hours, all this stuff. So, anyway, I'm sharing this because I was doing a lot of like you know, hammering things and and shoving things with the screwdriver and all this stuff, and then I uh remembered that I have a a drill gun. And I was like, oh, I could just use the drill gun to do this, and it it solved a problem because like I kept breaking something with a hammer and a nail, trying to put a hole through it. Um, but then I used the drill gun and it like went clean right through. And I was like, man, imagine if I didn't have the drill gun, I would never like this solution was so easy to this particular part of the problem that I was working on. I was like, if I didn't have a drill gun, I would have never gotten to this solution. And then I was just thinking of it in the context of like, you know, if I didn't have if I didn't know that a drill gun existed, I couldn't use it. I couldn't uh come to this solution. And in the same way, getting to the point of critical thinking, like if you don't have that uh vocabulary, if you don't have the understanding, you don't know that this idea over here exists, you can't apply it to this other situation, or you can't think outside of you know just the surface level of what you're given. You know? Anyway, I was telling you that story uh so that you can come help me uh when you get down here. Maybe you can why is the roof leaking? There's a hole in the roof. It's a metal, a sheet metal roof. And that part just rusted and it's leaking right there.

SPEAKER_13 1:44:15

Why don't you just cover the hole with some tape?

SPEAKER_14 1:44:26

Or put some spray foam or replace the panel. Yeah, I'm gonna help you solve that when I get there, assuming we have time for it. Yeah. I mean, it's it's very clever. I'm very impressed with your ingenuity.

SPEAKER_03 1:44:39

Thank you. I was impressed with my MT.

SPEAKER_14 1:44:42

But it's also an example of of uh vocabulary as well, because I'm like, I I was imagining it's a roof that's like got uh what do they call that stuff? Shingles. Shingles, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:44:53

Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_14 1:44:54

Because if it's that you could literally just replace the shingles, but um okay, yeah, we'll uh we'll look at that.

SPEAKER_13 1:45:00

We'll we'll we'll just fill the hole up.

SPEAKER_14 1:45:06

Okay, okay. When you were talking about the bat the feedback, I was like assuming okay, you're gonna like tape the feedback over like a part of the roof or something to like, but you're like, no, I put it under the leak and it fills up, and then I have a a complex funnel system to get the water. I was like, So listen, listen, listen, listen. Okay, I'm still impressed.

SPEAKER_03 1:45:26

I I thought by putting the feed bag under because I I'd made it really like close to the leak. I didn't think it was gonna fill up with water. I thought what would happen is it would prevent it from dropping onto the roosting bars, and it would just go off because it's right next to the side of the coop. I thought it would run off to the side and just be like, okay, cool, like it'll just it can just run down the side, that's fine with me, right? That's what I thought would happen. But then I noticed the problem afterwards was like it was just filling up and heading towards the the center, and I was like, oh, that's not what I wanted. But I already had the feedback up there, and I was like, well, I I guess the next step would be everything that I explained.

SPEAKER_14 1:46:15

Well, I'll have to look at it. Yeah, I don't know. I I feel like you could just somehow fix the whole thing.

SPEAKER_03 1:46:21

No, that's that's that's what you're coming for. That's okay.

SPEAKER_14 1:46:23

Yeah, so you're just waiting for me. I'm waiting. Also, what is a drill gun? A drill? Oh, okay. I didn't know if that was some kind of thing I've never heard of before.

SPEAKER_03 1:46:33

No, no, no, that's what the drill. That's what the old guy That's what he called it.

SPEAKER_14 1:46:37

Maybe it's like some old school version name.

SPEAKER_03 1:46:39

I think that's what that's how they you know, okay. So, you know, like there's this thing um to like clip branches. What would you call that? Well, I think they're called loppers. Okay, so they're called I didn't know that. I never called it either. I was called clippers. Exactly. So so whenever I hear the word loppers, I'm like, he's making that up. That's just his term point.

SPEAKER_14 1:47:02

I know Katie would always say that, and I'm like, Is that called?

SPEAKER_03 1:47:06

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_14 1:47:07

I'm like, get the get the loppers.

SPEAKER_03 1:47:08

What the fuck?

SPEAKER_14 1:47:09

Like Cindy Lopper.

SPEAKER_03 1:47:11

I'm like, why do you call it loppers? Like, yeah, just lop something, you know, like it sounded so weird to me. So yeah.

SPEAKER_14 1:47:18

Um there, you know, like circular or not circular saws, uh miter saws, you know, the ones where you like bring it down, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But out here they call them chop saws. Oh, okay. They call them chop saws. Oh, yeah, that makes sense. And they gotta be like, You got a chop saw? And I'm like, I'm not sure. Dude, but how's that Liz?

SPEAKER_03 1:47:38

The guy goes, uh, see, use uh a hit gun. And I was like a hit gun. Are you trying to say heat gun? Like I literally asked him, like, are you trying to say heat gun?

SPEAKER_14 1:47:49

Uh they also say bob wire here. Oh, it's not barb? Yeah, it's not barbed wire, it's bob wire. Bob? You know bob? Yeah, he's wire. And it's like, I'm like, are they saying this ironically? But they're saying bob. Bob wire. That's so funny.

SPEAKER_18 1:48:06

Yeah, that's so funny.

SPEAKER_03 1:48:08

You know what's what's really funny about it is like they're the people who use that the most often. Yeah, they actually know more about it than I do. Right. Meanwhile, like all the city people are like, it's called a barbed wire. Like, yeah, okay, but use one. How do you how do you you know spread the barbed wire without uh without hurting yourself? Yeah, I don't know. Exactly I don't know. I but I know it has barbs. Yeah, yeah. I do know that's well well the guy who calls it Bob. He he knows what to do with it.

SPEAKER_14 1:48:37

Yeah, I thought because Bob was the one who installed it.

SPEAKER_03 1:48:43

You know, that I have um I have a neighbor who's got some really cool I've got a few neighbors actually that have really cool fucking tool or not just tools, but like vehicles. Like they'll have fucking tractors with the front loader. I don't have a front loader on my tractor. They they've got like you know, uh tractors with different attachments where you can like put an auger that like will spin and and you know drill holes, yeah. Yeah, to make like fucking I don't know, planting trees. I don't know what the fuck they're doing. These guys are hilarious. All my neighbors are fucking hilarious because they're all most of them are old as shit. They're all old, and they all like um have these really fun things that they use, and they're out on their yards every day. Every day they're out in their yard doing something like you just cut your grass, now they're out there with like scissors. There's there's one neighbor, I have one neighbor who is 94 years old. 94 years old, and every day he goes for a walk, and he walks at least a mile every day. He walks at least a mile every day, 94 years old. Right? And he tells the most hilarious jokes. Like he's he's got for as old as he is. Katie, I'm not 94 years old. Katie. Can you can you see the screen right now, Katie? Katie, look at the screen. Look at look at the screen. Look at this face. This is not what old looks like, okay? Alright? And maybe it is what old looks like. Maybe I will look like this forever. Because you know what they say. Black don't crack. Dude. Anyway. The point I was making, this old guy for as old as he is, he's pretty witty. He's pretty hilarious. And he makes jokes about the other neighbors because I guess because he can't go out on like farm equipment and like mow his lawn or whatever. He makes jokes that like the other guys are like out there with scissors.

SPEAKER_18 1:51:02

Like, yeah, yeah, I've seen I seen Gary out there the other day. I've seen Gary. He's out there with his scissors just manicuring his lawn. Literally. He's pretty funny.

SPEAKER_03 1:51:14

Um Katie's just like coming at me in the comments.

SPEAKER_14 1:51:18

I have some funny things to show you. Show me. Let me start with well, actually, I'll get to the funny, funny. Um just this is these are some weird things.

SPEAKER_13 1:51:31

Do you see this? Yes. Yes. What the fuck?

SPEAKER_03 1:51:41

See, okay, you know what's interesting about this? Is uh this reminds me of like the path to being a saint, you know?

SPEAKER_14 1:51:50

Well, yeah, that's why they're doing it. This is psychosis.

SPEAKER_18 1:51:54

Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_14 1:51:55

Because look, why would why would you want to do this unless you're like really fucked up inside and you're like, I gotta show my faith to God because otherwise the demons are gonna get me. So that's that. Here's another one. You'll love this.

SPEAKER_03 1:52:54

They should have got an actual lion in there.

SPEAKER_14 1:52:57

Like, just let it loose. That do you see what I'm saying with the fucking mental illness? Like the beginning, he said the beginning and the end. Like, they think there's an end to this. Yeah. Okay, um, here's another one that's totally off topic. Did you see this? I I the original IGN post was deleted. I don't know why, but you guys are this. Hey, Playmo. Is this real? I don't know if this is real or not.

SPEAKER_03 1:53:28

I don't it looks like it could be real, but I thought it was an April Fools thing.

SPEAKER_14 1:53:33

Oh, is that what you think? Yeah, that's it's it's April Fool's.

SPEAKER_03 1:53:37

Yeah, yeah. It's on April 1st. IGN said that. The thing is, it's like I believed it because it seems like something they would do. No, it looks fucking real. Like, like, okay, so that that's the problem today, is you don't know what satire or not. Right. Because it's so fucking like it's so believable. Like I sent you that Erica Kirk shit, right? Where it was like Erica Kirk was upset at Drewski because her daughter saw that and thought that that was her. And then I was like, damn, Erica, why is your fucking kid watching?

SPEAKER_14 1:54:14

But you didn't question, no, why would she say that? It's like, no, clearly she would actually say something like that.

SPEAKER_03 1:54:19

To me, it was so fucking believable that she would fucking have a problem with Drewski and doing that shit.

SPEAKER_14 1:54:24

Fuck April Fools, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:54:28

No, no, no, no, no. Fuck April Fools. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is not an April Fool's thing. This is not anti-April Fool's. This is like, why is our world to the point where the most fucking ridiculous shit is believable?

unknown 1:54:43

You know why.

SPEAKER_03 1:54:45

Why hold on hold on hold on? When you sent me that tweet of Donald Trump.

SPEAKER_14 1:54:52

I know. I was like, no fucking why is the unbelievable shit real?

SPEAKER_08 1:54:58

Right!

SPEAKER_14 1:54:58

And the believable shit is fake.

SPEAKER_08 1:55:01

Right.

SPEAKER_14 1:55:03

What the fuck? Anyway. Alright, I got one more funny thing. I love this channel. I've seen two of this guy's videos, and I think they're really good. Let me see.

SPEAKER_03 1:55:14

Also, for those of you who don't know, there's this like thing going on right now where uh the right wing on Twitter is like trying to make a baby with the Japanese.

SPEAKER_14 1:55:29

Yeah, I that was it's kind of over now though. Is it over?

SPEAKER_03 1:55:33

Oh, it's already over?

SPEAKER_14 1:55:34

Well, if I'm just going based on my personal feed, yeah. There was like two or three days where it was all look how amazing Japan is, and Japan loves America. And it was like somebody had made a post saying if you if if a if if an American posts a video about a steak they made, Japanese people will comment on it and tell you how amazing it is and how great you did and stuff. So then that like started this whole thing of like Japanese people and Americans like posting and talking to each other, and it's like it was like this cultural exchange program, and it got so weird, like for like really intense, for like two or three days. I'm like, what is going on here? Like, what are they it and like there was that thing recently where uh the Japanese prime minister was at the White House and someone asked, like, about the military plans, why aren't they not sharing it? And he was like, Well, you guys didn't tell us, you know, before attacking Pearl Harbor. And it was like funny. So it was almost like this weird I don't know, something it's kind of like with the moon stuff. It's like, what did they're trying to get people into something? I don't know what it is. There's something weird about I like Japan before it was cool to like Japan. Yeah, fucking years ago, yeah, like fucking 1980s, man. Now it's like all the weird kids like it. Me howdy. Now there's just more weird kids. Okay, this is funny, man. This guy's not actually from Japan, it's Chinese, but whatever. Same thing. Same thing. I love this. There's there's another one. I don't know if I can find it or not. Let me see real quick. But there's another one. There's one of those on the beach. No, it's uh hold on me see if I can find what's his Instagram name. Nihaudi. No, it doesn't say on here. No, I've watched I've watched a few of his videos. There was one where um Okay, that's not right. Tell me about it.

SPEAKER_13 1:58:22

I've probably watched it.

SPEAKER_14 1:58:23

There was one where he gets pulled over by the police. Did you see that one? No, I didn't. And they're like, you're not allowed, you're not allowed to be American. And he's like, oh no, I'm not, you know, the speaking chin. He's like, I'm not American. And then she's like, step out of the car. Oh, because he was eating a cheeseburger. And he's like, oh no, and then he like pulls out a couple noodles, and then she's like, step out of the car, right? And it's all like the the point of view is like it's like the police flashlight, so it's dark, but it's like the lights shining on him. And she's like, you know, step out of the car, and uh, and it the camera pans back to him, and he's got like a USA like t-shirt or something, yeah, like a jersey, and she's like, What's that? Why are you wearing that? He's like, Oh no, my my friend, my friend gave it to me, and it's that really weird frenetic style. Yeah, and then she's like, Let me let me check your car. He's like, Oh, that's fine, that's fine. So she goes and opens the back, and there's an American flag on a flagpole, and she pulls it out, and she's like, What is this? And it pants back to him, and he's got that cowboy outfit on, and he's like on a horse or some shit, and it's like it's so crazy. Yeah, knee howdy. Yeah, he did say knee howdy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought I caught that too.

SPEAKER_03 1:59:25

I found it. I found the video you're talking about. Here it is.

SPEAKER_07 2:00:09

Oh, don't make you take it to me. God bless you. Hey, thanks. Much obliged. Yeah. Thank you for your turn, by the way. Thank you for the turf, by the way.

SPEAKER_14 2:00:49

She sneezes and he goes, God bless you. Bunny. Uh, that's good. Uh what else? What else you got, man? I I've been seeing some pretty good stuff from the group, some pretty good uh videos. Oh yeah. Maya's been uh doing some good ones.

SPEAKER_03 2:01:07

Maya's got her glasses on, she's on the couch with her coffee. It's amazing. I love it. Keith, tell Maya we love her. Um, did you see about these clankers? People saying stuff about clankers. Check this out. Yeah, he sent it to me. Look at this.

SPEAKER_09 2:01:35

Oh, fully clankers!

SPEAKER_08 2:01:37

Are you a clankers? Look up around me! Oh god!

SPEAKER_03 2:01:42

Oh god. I I kind of feel like that's like not real. I don't know.

SPEAKER_14 2:01:51

It seems nothing is real anymore, is it? Like they could have just done that on purpose for a video.

SPEAKER_03 2:01:58

Yes.

SPEAKER_14 2:01:58

And yet it is real at the same time because they literally did it.

Media As Dog Whistle Frequencies

SPEAKER_03 2:02:03

Uh Alias is Kalana's got a lot of views. Uh listen, um about these things that we see in the media. The more I read, the more apparent it becomes that literally everything that we're shown either online or you know, from the news or whatever is just to construct some view to get you to go along with something else. You know, or or even just to support you to be passive. You know?

SPEAKER_14 2:02:39

While they do what exactly? While they do all the things, like all the fucking creating god, you know, like I feel like all the religious stuff was just abide the bide the time and uh condition everybody to accept this idea of a god so that we can get to this point where the nerds can create the computer god.

SPEAKER_03 2:03:01

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 2:03:02

You know? Dude, so go ahead.

SPEAKER_18 2:03:05

Go ahead, go ahead.

SPEAKER_14 2:03:06

Okay, I'll go. You go, then I'll go. Last night, I you know, I was running out of things to talk about on the stream, so I was just like, let's look up five sci-fi shit, right? So I was going through like all of Philip K. Dick's books and just like kind of clicking on them, seeing which ones I had read and all this. And I had clicked on one I haven't read yet called Vulcan's Hammer.

SPEAKER_05 2:03:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 2:03:24

And it's like, here, let me show you real quick. I've not read that one either. Don't fucking spoil it for me. Dude, it's so weird because when I was reading the descriptions on Wikipedia, I'm like, is that what it's about? Like, they don't really uh, I'll just show you this. It's just this part right here. Okay. In the year 2029, the Earth is run by the Unity organization after the Third World War. Unity runs the planet, controlling humans from childhood education onwards through the Vulcan series of artificial intelligences. And it's in the year 2029. Wow. I was like, what? And I was kind of connecting it back to all the delusion shit that we've been talking about in the streams of like, I think this guy was literally a prophet. Like he was schizophrenic, he was getting visions and shit, and trying to describe them, but it wasn't like he could predict the future, like, this is what's gonna happen next, and this and this. He was just trying to make sense of it, you know.

SPEAKER_03 2:04:27

Yeah, I I heard you yesterday talking about like um David Icke for a little bit. And Christine was asking, like, how come David Icke seems to know so much? You know, and like he had a white light experience. White light. Like, yeah, he said what Felante did. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Like white light. And it it's just so interesting because you know, we we understand what the white light is, you know, and uh it's like, oh, that makes a lot of sense when once you see that point, you know. Um specifically with uh what you were sharing yesterday with David Icke with the sound thing, very interesting because it makes you like okay, the the point that he was making, I I think you were going through like some somatics, right? Right? Yeah, something like that. And and for those of you who don't remember, is basically if you put a plate with some sand on a speaker and you turn the speaker to any frequency, anyway. Yeah, the uh the sand will eventually uh disperse into different patterns, and even as the sand is moving, it'll keep the same pattern, which is very interesting, you know. And the same thing happens with water, obviously. Um and that's just so interesting because uh the point that he makes is there are frequencies that we cannot perceive with our ears, sound frequencies that we cannot perceive with our ears, there's frequencies that we cannot perceive with our eyes that we as humans do not perceive as like something's happening. Like as an example, a dog whistle. Although I don't really like the example of a dog whistle because I feel like I can hear certain like you know like or or maybe maybe it's because at SeaWorld it would blow uh a whistle and it was supposed to be some frequency that like it was supposed to be like a dog whistle, but you could really clearly hear it. So I don't know what that was about for the dolphins.

SPEAKER_14 2:06:40

It could also have a human-level sound as well. Okay, okay. I don't know about it. I'm just saying, like, it could be making multiple You know, because it's not only one frequency when you blow a whistle, it's many frequencies. Yeah, it's not a pure one frequency, so it could have some of the harmonics going into the okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:06:59

Fair enough, fair enough. So anyway, um, but yes, the idea basically being that like there's a frequency that you cannot hear, but other animals will respond to you, or you know, other things within our environment will respond to it. Meaning it is happening, but you don't perceive it, you don't see it. It doesn't seem like anything to you or I and that's really significant because that's having an effect on the world. And uh you were making a really great point of like so so the the point that he makes just to complete that is uh if you're having thoughts, there is a frequency being put out by those thoughts that maybe you may not perceive them as sound per se. Like, think about it, how is it that you do hear your own thoughts in your mind?

SPEAKER_14 2:07:55

Yeah, well, regardless, everything that's happening is sound, yes, yeah. Because sound is just compression, yeah. It's like compression patterns, it's a vibration, it's a vibration of molecules, and like show me one thing in this reality that doesn't exist as some kind of vibration of molecules, it all is right, and so you you were making this really great point of like it's not just you can change your thoughts and then you're gonna change uh it's not only your thoughts that only your thoughts, right?

SPEAKER_03 2:08:29

Right, right. Because you have all these other things, so it would be like uh if you go into a concert and then you you press like your ringtone on your phone and you're like holding it up, and like nobody's gonna fucking hear that. I'm the one making all the music, right? Yeah, but like like you know, the the the speakers are clearly overpowered, dude, dude. I want to play that clip of the the Kanye concert because that's just I'm just I'm a stanz.

SPEAKER_14 2:08:59

Let me make a point real quick while you do that, which is about dog whistles. Uh-huh. Because I think this the kind of the general point you're talking about is interesting. Of uh, there's all these that everything is happening through vibrational frequency and creating things into certain patterns. And I even went on that stream into looking at how we view molecules and chemistry now, you know, because you learn like oh, it's the electron orbits the nucleus, right? Right. That's not really what it is. And like the more you get into like higher-level math, they describe it as like vibrational patterns that are held together through resonance, yeah. Which is literally their sound. That's why I was going in through and showing the cymatics and all that to get to that point. So you see, even scientists nowadays, you didn't learn this in school because you learned like 1908 version of what they thought it was. Now they're like, it's it's literally these probability waves, waves, what are waves? Like sound waves. Okay, everything is a wave, it's not actually particles. And uh, my point just being okay, so we can influence reality through vibration, frequency, words, etc., and everything's being held in certain patterns. So not only just the physical objects, but the actual patterns, like uh political movements, laws, policies, all of those are patterns that are holding behavior in certain patterns, you know. Like when they passed the law, now we act in a certain way. Right. And so going back to the stuff we were talking about originally about those weird ass fucking memes that the government's doing, they're dog whistles. Like you can't hear the actual frequency that's being played, which is the medium being the message, the actual meaning of it and the actual influence it has, you can't hear and see that part. You're just seeing the you're just seeing the whistle or something, you know, but you're not actually realizing it's sending out a fucking pattern into everybody's minds that's getting them to respond to the war, for example, in a certain way, or respond to robots in a certain way, or whatever it is.

SPEAKER_03 2:11:02

You know, okay, so um when I was a kid, my dad used to take me to um concerts uh because he worked for a record company, right? And uh he he would take me like he backstage of um I'm gonna say this name now, or it's gonna sound fucking ridiculous. Um but you you remember Nick Cannon?

SPEAKER_14 2:11:30

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:11:31

So so backstage with Nick Cannon, um who's another one? Uh Master P, uh Yin Yang Twins, uh, you know, like folks like that, right? Black Eyed Peas. Um and I remember one of the cards.

SPEAKER_14 2:11:48

Fergie as beautiful in real life as she seems in pictures.

SPEAKER_03 2:11:51

I don't think Fergie was a part of the Black Eyed Peas at the end.

SPEAKER_14 2:11:54

Oh, they added her later? Yes.

SPEAKER_03 2:11:56

Yes.

SPEAKER_14 2:11:57

Is that when they came out with Let's Get Retarded?

SPEAKER_03 2:11:59

Yes. Um but yeah I remember a conversation that I was having with like somebody backstage and I was a kid, mind you, but like it was somebody um shut up, Katie. I was having a conversation with someone, and uh they were they were making this point it was and I don't remember who it was, but they were making this point of like how in hip-hop like it's the because it was like this was before the event started, they were going on stage to do a like a sound check, and they were like, you know, in in hip-hop and they were specifically saying like in black music, whatever, like what's really important is the bass, like the the bass has to move you, like you have to be able to feel it because if you can't feel it, and you just hear the song, it's it's not the same, you know. And and so they were making this this point of like you the music has to go through you, and you have to feel it. And dude, oh man, I was hearing something recently that was like we're gonna play this song. There's a black eyed pea song, actually. I'll play you that song later. Um, but but it was this point of like the music has to move through you and move you. It's not just you're hearing it and you're making a choice to dance along with it.

SPEAKER_14 2:13:33

It's like the the idea is basically like the music moves you because it like it forces you like the sands, the grains of sand on the speaker plate. They're not like it's it imagine they have sort of a level of consciousness and the speaker starts vibrating, and they're like, Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, all right. And everyone's like dancing, and it's like a certain pattern, then they turn up the frequency, and then suddenly everyone's like doing a different dance, right? You know, which shows like a different pattern, right?

SPEAKER_03 2:14:01

Right, exactly, exactly. And so that's the point that I'm trying to say is like when you're saying the the White House videos that they're putting out, the memes and all that shit, it's yeah, it is a dog whistle. Like, yes, here's the sound that you're hearing is like that's the meme. Ha ha! Or oh, I can't believe that. But then underneath it is like the this is moving you, this is the vibration, the frequency that's like fucking moving your body to go do the thing that we need you to do or want you to do, or whatever, right? And man, we talked about this, we talk about this all the time, but just the consideration of how we've dumbed everyone down to the point where like the average person can't even recognize that they're moving. They they think it's them moving. You get what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_14 2:14:58

It's almost like you're saying God is in control of reality and we don't really have free choice. In the beginning was the sound.

SPEAKER_03 2:15:11

No, um no, what uh that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying like well, but it is true also. But what what I'm saying though, the point that I'm making is like um because what you said was like we don't have free choice. We don't but that's only given that we've accepted that. And and I don't mean and I don't mean in the context of like if you would just wake up and realize that you have free choice, then you would. What I mean is like um again, we've been raised in an environment, we've been traumatized, we've been set in this way where we are imprisoned, and we've been taught how to be our own jailers, and we don't know anything else, which in that context, you don't have a choice, you can only do that.

SPEAKER_14 2:16:24

But what choice do you have even now? Like I would say the only point of choice, like free will, free choice, whatever you have, is am I gonna change the programming within myself? Yeah, because you're still gonna follow it programming, yeah. It's just like what's coming up automatically, that's what you're gonna do.

SPEAKER_03 2:16:42

Okay, but what when you say you don't have a choice, the I mean that sounds like to, and I know we don't have the average person listening, but I'm just saying that sounds like to the average person give up. Like that's just defeatism, you know? Like there's no blood.

SPEAKER_14 2:16:59

No, but I'm saying you you could change your programming.

SPEAKER_03 2:17:03

Okay, but but you have to clarify because like I said that. I said that. No, but that but you're saying, but okay, but what you're saying now is you still don't have free choice, but people you can choose your program.

SPEAKER_14 2:17:18

If you let's say I never told anybody you don't actually have any free choice, they're still going around acting like they do. Do you, yeah, while they're not actually choosing anything. That's yeah, I agree. So I'd rather you be like, oh shit, I actually don't have a choice. I have to change my program because if I don't change my programming, there's no amount of no, I'm just gonna start choosing all the time now.

SPEAKER_03 2:17:39

Um not gonna happen. No, no, no, no, no, no. But but uh if I don't have free choice and you're telling me I don't have free choice, then okay, well, I got there's not a choice anyway, so I'm just gonna keep doing this.

SPEAKER_14 2:17:54

But you are already acting like you had a choice, so it doesn't matter. And you weren't. So it doesn't matter. So you could change it. Do you like what you're experiencing?

SPEAKER_03 2:18:01

How could I change it if I don't have free choice?

SPEAKER_14 2:18:04

Free choice, what I'm saying is you don't, if you go outside of your room right now and start walking around, yeah, you're just being influenced by everything. Yeah, tell me what you're choosing.

SPEAKER_17 2:18:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 2:18:15

So there is no choosing in any of that. The moment of, okay, I'm going to like within myself go through my vocabulary, forgive the points within myself.

SPEAKER_03 2:18:27

Okay, I see, I see the point. I see the point. Because I agree with everything that you're saying, obviously. But uh what sounds different is when you say free choice, it sounds like I don't have a decision to make. Right. There is no decision for me to make. Or there is no there is no point in which I can influence things or change anything. There's there's nothing to change, essentially. Like I'm just I'm a follower of Allah.

SPEAKER_14 2:19:05

You know? But if somebody says, wow, it sounds like I don't have any choice anymore, but the whole time you thought you did. What I'm saying is the whole time you thought you did, you actually weren't choosing anything. Like in a conscious, like moment-to-moment way. So you weren't so you just had the illusion of free choice. I think this is only an argument that you and I can have. I know. Let's let's go.

SPEAKER_03 2:19:34

Hope you guys are enjoying this. Um, yeah, basically, like I don't even know what the fucking point I was making before this was. Your fucking fault. Anyway, would you like to see a clip of uh Carnegie?

SPEAKER_14 2:19:51

Yeah, yeah. Do I have a choice?

SPEAKER_03 2:19:54

No, you don't.

SPEAKER_14 2:21:05

The visions on that. Think about this. Kanye West, I would say one cool thing about him is that he's honest about the fact that he's mentally ill. Yeah. He's mentally ill. Like he's delusional. Right? And and it's funny because you have so many people, like especially over the past few years, who are like, oh, he's you know, anti-Semitic, all this stuff, right? But he's just a person that is also very creative and has a certain resonance, right? And that's what I was trying to say about the elite. Like they're they're all mentally ill, like everybody. I was reading an article on the Destiny website from a while back, and Bernard was having a discussion about schizophrenia, and there's this one part where somebody was like, So it seems like you're saying everyone's schizophrenic. He's like, Yes. I'm like, really though? You're hearing a voice in your head. Yeah. Why should you hear a voice in your head? Like, oh, that's me. How is it you? It's a voice in your head. Like, you wouldn't even need to have a voice in your head if it was just you here actually directing things. And my point just being like, everybody, everybody on this planet actually has a form of mental illness. There's something not right, there's a split inside of you. And then so it makes sense why all the things in our reality are totally fucked up, reinforcing, and and then all of the religions, philosophies, everything is just a way of in that mental illness, it's like an OCD compulsion of like, oh, if I do this, then that bad thought will go away. You know, and then we have the conditions that we've manifested in our system that don't really take care of everybody that you end up getting abused by, and then that reinforces the point that there's got to be something else. But it's it's really if you go back and watch the live streams I did over the past couple days, like we really go into like the the delusional shit that people talk about, like they're actually explaining it. And I'm like, how is this any different than what anybody experiences? Actually, the difference is that person sort of interfering with people's ability to just it it's like there's a stability of the system, a sort, a certain kind of stability. And when someone goes too extreme in their craziness, it messes with the stability of the system.

SPEAKER_13 2:23:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 2:23:31

But if you look at if you zoom out and look at the entire system overall, that's just the expression of a delusion as well.

SPEAKER_18 2:23:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 2:23:40

And only certain people are benefiting in a certain sense from that delusion, but they're not really like Elon Musk or Palmer Lucky, it seems like, oh, they're having such a cool life, but like what is he doing? He's just building fucking weapons. How is that helping anything?

SPEAKER_17 2:23:55

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_14 2:23:56

So, well, there but there's crazy people out there in the world.

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SPEAKER_03 2:23:58

I'm like, you're one of them. Here's here's my the my point with the Palmer Lucky, the Elon Musk, the clavicular, right? Is just extrapolate that for the next 40 years. Yeah, you know, like like this is you this is your influence. Now for the next 40 years, what does that generation look like? What do those kids look like when they become adults? You know? This guy's like, oh, the the only pub you need to go to is PubMed, you know, like not have any friends and Tittoe Max and like then it's all just about how you're perceived and what are you bringing to the world? Just more of the same uh craziness that you're seeing in video games, like what what's influencing the culture actually right now? And versus versus what could be influencing the culture, which is us, which by the way, shout out all the ladies with all your great videos. Like I see like tons of awesome videos from all the women. Uh Maya got like over a million views on one of her videos. Like one oh wow, damn. Um uh it was one way she was like making steak. Still, that's pretty cool. Yeah. Uh I see Kaylana's got like 20k views. Giselle's getting the you know 40k views, and like so it it's it's cool because that right now is a small impact, you know, but it's imagine as that grows. And the influence that we have as a network and bringing people in and just sharing like Christine actually um chuck roast. Chuck roast is a steak. It is a steak. It's how anyway.

SPEAKER_14 2:26:00

Just because you roasted it. Yeah. Um, I guess a steak is when you slice it into strips, I suppose. There's probably some technical definition of steak, so yeah, like you could take a ro you could take a chuck roast, what you call it, and you could slice it into steaks. But when you keep it as one giant piece, they call that a roast.

SPEAKER_03 2:26:19

Yeah. Uh Christine made a video or like a couple videos the other day. And in those videos, it was she was just saying basically uh Oh, she was just talking about like homeschooling. She she's actually she was just sharing I think maybe a controversial take on like you know, somebody talking shit about homeschooling or something like that.

SPEAKER_14 2:26:46

And you're talking about Christine?

unknown 2:26:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 2:26:48

Yeah, by the way. Was it the one about uh the like things not having to be that complex?

SPEAKER_02 2:26:57

Yeah, something like that.

SPEAKER_14 2:26:58

Yeah, it was a good video, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:26:59

She made a few videos like that. And uh and she's been getting like I think five different people have messaged her. Wow. Like saying, I want to know more about this. Why are the women better than us at this? No fucking clue, but I'm I'm down. I'm down. But yeah, and she she's like, it it's not like it has a lot of views. Just like she went on TikTok. Here's here's something she got from Katie. She gave Katie credit for this. She said, because Katie said that the videos that she would upload on TikTok don't uh don't get a lot of traction. And and she was saying probably because like on a resonant level, Katie doesn't use TikTok, right? Uh and so Christine was like, so what I did was I uploaded my video, and then for like just two, three minutes, I go on to TikTok and I just like a bunch of videos, and then I just turn off TikTok, and I just give myself two, three minutes every day to just go back but back and like a bunch of videos, and that's it. And then it pushes out her videos to people, so she's like, I think it's working, because random people have started messaging her on TikTok and following her on TikTok, so it's like it's pretty cool anyway. I'm just sharing that because it's uh part of the influence that we're having. Think about this, and I I know we don't have much time left, but um the influence of one plus one. Like you found me somewhere in on a cruise. On a cruise! On a cruise, we found each other. Actually, I was actually just hanging out with uh Josiah. You know, you know who really brought me into all this? Josiah. Josiah was I think like 14 or something, and I was just like, whoa, whoa, whoa, it's not I was like, he's the only other kid on this cruise. I'm gonna hang out with him. Because I knew he was associated with Avery. I was like, I don't want, I'm not gonna hang out with Avery, but I'll hang out with Josiah. So we we hung out during that cruise, and then I guess I I don't know how I met you or whatever, and then afterwards you were like, let's hang out in Orlando, we'll be in Orlando, and then that had an influence in my life, right? Is this a birthday today? I don't know. Happy birthday, if it is, I don't know. Um, but then that you had an influence in my life where you were basically impulsing me with your social media, and then you also reached out to me, and then we talked, and then I got TT, and then you were influencing me. Yeah, destiny, and I was like, I don't know about all this, but through your influence, it really changed my life 100%, right? And then now I've got children, we have now now that influence has spread to the point where we have a community, and look how many more people we are now, and how now they're spreading their influence into social media, and that's just gonna continue growing, especially because what's really cool about what we're doing is it's real, like there's a purpose to it, like it's it makes sense all the time, you know.

SPEAKER_14 2:30:49

Go ahead. Kate Kate and I were talking this morning, and and we were we were talking about things generally, and then we brought up it was something about you, and because I was thinking I was talking about the Kanye West stuff, and I was saying how I was like, you know, Drake like thinks Kanye OS is cool, and and we were just talking about some different points about that. But I was I was I was looking at it like okay, what oh oh I know why, because I I bought some new crocs to wear as like sandals, and they're oh they're right here. They're like they're like this, so they're like kind of like slides, I suppose, right?

SPEAKER_03 2:31:26

And uh I already see the whole conversation that you had.

SPEAKER_14 2:31:29

Go ahead, yeah. And I was like, you know, I was like, Kanye West like influenced our world, like because these those shoes are definitely because of his sort of idea about how footwear should look, right? 100%, right? They would not exist if he hadn't done that thing. And I'm like, all right, cool. So he influenced the world to wear shoes like that, you know, and maybe there's some other ways, but I'm like, but he's fucking he's insane, like he's he's a crazy person, right? Like objectively, objectively, yeah, yeah, yeah. But he's crazy enough to be like, I'm gonna fucking influence shit, and like I don't care, like it's what I want to do, you know? And I was like, so what are we here to do? Like, we're here to influence the world to make sure their kids can fucking read. Yeah, you know, and then all the things that come from that, obviously. But at the most basic, simplified level, it's just to influence, like, imagine our legacy is gonna be that a lot of children actually become really educated and can think differently about reality because right now they want to influence them to just rely on AI and trust it and all that shit we've talked about a lot. But like our actual like we're going beyond and see the thing is I don't have to compare myself to Kanye West. Like, if it's at an individual level of creativity and all this shit, like I'm not gonna be able to compete with that because he's got a different programming and it fits into a lot of things, right? But like, okay, as one individual, let's say I'm not as powerful creatively in the context of influencing all these little tiny things in the system, like fashion and shit. Okay, but as a col as a group, we can influence the fact that in the future we will have changed this world because people can actually process information. That's so much more important. It doesn't look as sexy and cool, you know what I mean? Like, oh look, everyone's wearing the shoes I invented, you know. Like that seems cool, but who gives a shit? You know, so it's not like I get to take credit because in the future all these kids are gonna be reading. It's not like because, oh, look at how great I was, you know, and I think that's the difference between when you look at like Kanye West, there's a person that you can attach it all to, and it's like they're the one that that made all this happen. Even though that's probably not the whole story, anyways, but they represent. Present that, but like with what we're doing, it's like you don't get that point of like I'm the one, it all came from me, and it's because I'm so amazed. It's like it's really about you're you're pushing yourself, like we were talking about in the beginning. That that Demis Asabi point about like you're pushing yourself into the limits and all that stuff, so you still have to do that, but it's not about you being the one that did it all, you know? Yeah, so but it within ourselves, if we're envious of that point, it's really just accepting like this idea of ourselves that we're so little, which doesn't mean that we have to go to the polarity because if you if you well, I can't be that great like that. It's like who gives a shit? Who gives a shit if anyone remembers my name, thinks I'm great, writes stories about me, movies, doc like I I still can direct myself, right? That's why I'm doing the live stream because I'm like, hey, I actually have some things to say. And like I was talking to John Anthony, he was like, dude, he was enjoying it, and he was like, no one's like going into all these kind of topics in like the live streaming, it's all clavicular and Nick Fuentes and all that shit, right? So it's like, all right, well, I'm just gonna talk about stuff that's interesting on what I do, yeah. But it's not about any one of us becoming it's not about us, any one of us becoming the one that everyone focuses on, but at the same time not resisting that either. Yeah, right? Because there may be people in our group, there will be, there will have to be people in our group who stand in positions that get a lot of attention. But it's not for the purpose of just being able to feel like, oh, I'm so great, I'm so amazing, I'm you know, because of the following. I I saw this quote, I don't remember who it was from. I try to remember who it was from. It was something about um if you it was something to deal with like if you're getting your feeling of love and esteem from like your followers, then when people hate you, it's like you'll you'll also be subject to that as well. It was something along those lines, right? So, like the degree to which you need other people's recognition, the thing is, with that comes like the other half of the world hating you in an extreme way. Yeah, you're gonna be affected by that as well. It's like what if you just literally didn't give a fuck how you're perceived? Like, who I am is the fact that we're gonna have a lot of children being able to read and process information and and actually really think critically, like in a way that no one's ever even that's why I don't even like the word critical thinking, because it's just a bullshit concept that's really just in the realm of like thinking. It's not about that, it's about really actually processing reality, taking responsibility for it. And like, if we can just let go of the need to have the recognition for it, and then realize whatever hate comes our way, that's not personal to us either. It's all fucking irrelevant. It's just about like what are we here to do? Because when we influence reality, that's influencing the reality we're gonna experience as well, you know? It's like you want to have a life that you enjoy, create that in the world, and then you'll get that reflected back. But in a world that's actually best, like, why would you give a fuck? Like, why would there be anybody important? You know, like yes, there could be people who do really cool things and you can admire that, but it won't be like, oh, and I think they're so amazing. Like, why would you care? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You wouldn't care, which is not to say that they don't matter, it's it would be appreciative, but why do they have to become the focus that you like worship that person? Yeah, isn't it more about the thing they did? And it only so the worship becomes relevant because nobody else can create cool stuff, it's only a few people, so you don't feel like you can do it, and so it's like this superiority-inferiority relationship.

SPEAKER_03 2:37:58

I don't know if we talked about this on the podcast. I know you and I talked about this in a just our chat, but um but the point of like the only reason why we have billionaires or kings and queens and things like that is because of an uh inequality, an inequality in uh education, an inequality in intelligence, and because of that inequality, it seems like when somebody comes up with a cool solution, it's like, oh wow, they're so amazing. I could never do that. They deserve all the money, as opposed to like if everyone had the ability to think on that level, to to create on that level, to have that education, to have that intelligence, then when something was created, it would be like, Oh, cool, you came up with this, awesome. This is this will benefit everybody, you know, and then it but it wouldn't be like uh you're so much better than me. It's like I mean, eventually I could have done something like that or figured that out, come up with some sort of solution, you know? And and so there would not be this inferiority, right, superiority, it would just be like actual equality, yeah, like actual appreciation of each other.

SPEAKER_14 2:39:16

Yes. Like I uh there was a clip Katie sent me of of Kanye West, and he's like wearing that hood or something, and he's talking about how he was it was like him reacting to somebody asking him how to make a PDF. Have you seen this? No. And he's like uh very matter of like, um, hold on, let me let me just let me just pull it up, I'll show you what I mean. Also, while I'm while I'm finding that do you know what the average screen time for people is? I looked it up in 2023, it was seven hours and four minutes, daily use wise varies by age, teens often exceeding eight and a half hours of screen time. Eight and a half for a teen? Jeez. Eight hours and thirty-nine minutes. US adults over seven hours is like the average. And I was just I was just thinking about it because I got a notification on my phone and it said my screen time, my average screen time for the past week was uh four hours. Wow, that's surprising. I'm like, really? Okay, you ready for this? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's it.

unknown 2:40:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 2:40:22

My issue with Jim was we working on clothes, and I said, Look, send me a PDF. For anybody doesn't know, it's like a group of pictures in a folder that you send to the iPhone. You can do like 300 pictures, 10 pictures on it, 10 pages. I said, send me a PDF of all the ideas, all the young niggas you know in New York. Let me see all of this shit right now. Let's let the king see everything that's happening. This man tells me I don't know how to make a PDF. That was way more disrespectful to me than the nigga figuring out how to get the two million dollars. You understand why? Cause this shit to my face, nigga. You gonna lie to me about a fucking PDF? After I sat and took the meeting for you, you took the money and I ain't even asked your broke ass for a percentage. Maybe he didn't know how to do it. Do you think one of his young niggas knew how to do it? Yeah, of course. Do you think that he could have figured it out after that nigga made two million dollars? Definitely. Next subject.

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SPEAKER_14 2:41:29

Definitely. So I don't know what the context was. The way I interpret it, because I maybe saw a shorter clip or something, was just kind of like, why are you fucking asking me about it? But I so I kind of get where he was coming from. Um, but it's very close. But it's also just this point of kind of like yeah, I don't know. I I guess I can kind of empathize if you consider where he's at, but most people are not as just like, let's do this, let's make it happen. Um, and so he's having to deal with people who are like accepting themselves as much as inferior. But the thing is, the only reason why he's in the position he's in actually is because people perceive him as superior. Yeah, like it seems like he on the one hand, like he wants everybody to kind of be at his level, but then everybody would be making shoes and clothing and stuff, and like who would be wearing your stuff because you would just make so that's the it's like this weird kind of dichotomy where it's like it's like I'm the king, and it's like, yeah, then then don't get upset that people fucking don't know how to make a PDF. Like I like how the guy was like, maybe you didn't know how to make a PDF. Yeah, anyways. Uh alright, we better go because we got another meeting coming up here. Alright, bye everybody. Bye guys. I'm gonna click the button, okay? Okay, press the button. See y'all next time. Actually, probably not next week. We will not be here next week.

SPEAKER_17 2:42:56

I don't know even know about the next one.

SPEAKER_14 2:42:58

Probably maybe then one after that. I don't know. Either way. We'll be here in two weeks. Two weeks. Something like that, yeah. Okay. All right, see you guys. Bye.

SPEAKER_18 2:43:07

Bye.

SPEAKER_14 2:43:07

Press the button. Should I press it?

SPEAKER_13 2:43:10

Press the button.

SPEAKER_14 2:43:11

Okay.

SPEAKER_13 2:43:11

I'm not I'm pressing the button. So perfect.

SPEAKER_08 2:43:16

Make it things going.